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12-09-2002, 07:06 AM
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Gun control at work???
My greek anti gun nut friend sent me this.
I can't understand why he would promote the anti position.
But looks like he is coming around. I guess even Europeans can see the light if you hit them hard enough.
I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under. It
has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new
law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
dollars.
The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
percent; Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed
robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent) in the state of Victoria
alone; homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while
the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and the
criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the past 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed
robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12
months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety
has decreased after such a monumental effort and expense was expended in
"successfully ridding Australian society of guns."
You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your
governor or members of the state Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the
law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it is too late!
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12-09-2002, 07:31 AM
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12-09-2002, 08:42 AM
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well, let them throw away their guns, and then we can go out there with out guns and take over their lands
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12-09-2002, 10:15 AM
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Don't get too smugg in that attitude. They are coming for ours as well. I say we are on a path for removal of the right with in 7 years.
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12-09-2002, 10:34 AM
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oh If they try to do that, I don't think that they will be able to get away with it.
Believe me, the black market will have even more business than what they have now.
And they don't even have to be bought, they can be home made, and just because something is outlawed, it doesn't mean that the public isn't going to have it. Just take a look at drugs. They are banned from the US< and it is illigal to posses and use them, but people still make them, grow them, and sell/use them.
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12-09-2002, 12:19 PM
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The obvious results of gun bans indicate what you are saying of course. The fact is that restrictive gun laws only affect the law abiding citizen (aka the guy you don't need to worry about). Do you really think that telling a guy who is a murderer that if he has a gun he will get in big trouble really matters.
Criminals do what they want. Good citizens trying to protect themselves and their families get the shaft.
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12-09-2002, 12:49 PM
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Couldn't agree more epidemic
The only guns that would be effected are the ones owned by the law abiding citizen.
"you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers"
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12-09-2002, 12:52 PM
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One item of note has been something termed "hot burglaries". These are home burglaries where the owners of the house are home. They are infrequent here in the US, but in the UK and Australia, where guns rights have been taken away and guns have been confiscated, hot burglaries are much more common.
According to Richard Poe in his book "The Seven Myths of Gun Control" And John Lott's book "More Guns, Less Crime", hot burglaries in the US consist of 13% of all burglaries because the US criminal knows that roughly 50% of US citizens own firearms. In the countries where gun control is more rampant, like the UK, Australia and Canada, hot burglaries are near 50%.
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12-09-2002, 01:00 PM
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The stats would be better if people were not afraid of going to jail for using them.
In virginia you must retreat in your house until there is no more retreat. Then you may defend life and limb.
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