Can I talk about Mexico?

[glohworm]

Hi people,

I've been doing a "thinkabout", as my old Aussie mate used to say. It's about Mexico. Is it a "neutral" country? Are they a member of OPEC? Is there something in their constitution that prohibited them from fighting in all the world wars? What is Mexico all about??!!

All I do know is that, according to the latest figures, $23 Billion dollars flows south each year. I do remember in my old Econ 101 class that there was something called the "Multiplyer effect". When someone earns a dollar in this economy, they spend a dollar here in this economy, e.g., they buy a new microwave, a new car, etc. That expenditure of a dollar becomes a dollar's income to someone else here in this country, and ultimately a portion goes to the government as a result. That single dollar bill becomes thousands, as it makes it's way through the economy. When it goes south, however, it dies!!!!!

Just my thoughts.

[uncle_jimbo]

"Is there something in their constitution that prohibited them from fighting in all the world wars? What is Mexico all about??!!"

Mexico entered World War 2 on May 28th, 1942. After a Mexican merchant ship named the Potrero del Llano was struck by a torpedo from a German U-boat on May 13th, 1942 near southern coast of Florida.

[caddmannq]

Lots of Mexicans served in the armed forces. Particularly in the US armed forces.

BTW, the money that goes south may not return in full, but we get the value back when millions of farm laborers flood into our fields here every year. Our own citizens would rather collect welfare than pick tomatos & grapes, and we'll continue to let them.

The Mexicans show up on time, and do a better job too.

[Epidemic]

I think the statement that our own citizens would rather collect welfare is a little unfair.

Basically it works this way IMO. The illegals collect a substandard wage because they are illegal and the farmer live off this fact to artificially keep wages low and profits high. Were the illegal imigrants stopped from flowing across the welfare recipients could make a decent living picking crops for a living.

The free market is not driving the cost of labor in that industy.

[samwichse]

"The Mexicans show up on time, and do a better job too."

You're telling me... those guys do incredible work...

We just contracted with some company to plant something like 10,000 seedlings and their crew was 100% Mexican and they did the job in a day and a half! The forman said they could do 1500 seedlings/day/man on a good day. If you put that into a 10 hour day, it's 150 seedlings/hr or 1 every 24 seconds!!! That's more work ethic than I've ever seen in anyone born in this country.

[Knothead]

Originally posted by samwichse
"The Mexicans show up on time, and do a better job too."---Cadd

You're telling me... those guys do incredible work...

We just contracted with some company to plant something like 10,000 seedlings and their crew was 100% Mexican and they did the job in a day and a half! The forman said they could do 1500 seedlings/day/man on a good day. If you put that into a 10 hour day, it's 150 seedlings/hr or 1 every 24 seconds!!! That's more work ethic than I've ever seen in anyone born in this country.

No argument, Sam. I have some similar stories, and the common thing about those stories is, if you show a good heart to these guys, the next thing you know, they've taken you home for cervesas, not to mention Mamacita handing you a dish or plate of something, and always with a certain look on those open brown faces...

A look that this pale gringo has seen many, many times from these almost maniacally friendly people...Amigo.

[MegalosSkylaki]

Stop talking about Mexicans as Labor Units--They is humanoids

And read Alan Rider's A Distant Neighbor

"Visitors who've been to Mexica often remark that it is more Foreign than, say, Russia."--A. Rider

Mexico has a unique culture based on its history and the amalgam of Indigenious and European (Spanain) culture, which has formed something different from either.

Ortega Y gasset can write a Book on "What does it mean to be a Spainard?". But Mexico, in it heroic pessimism is closer to what a Russion philosopher once wrote, "Man is descended from the Apes--so let us love one another."

Like Zorba, they have learned to dance. But behind this is a tragic but wise view of life. Visit Mexico for a week and you'll see several processions to the Virgin of of Guadeloupe. Yet the Day of the Dead is a quintessentially Mexican event: leave food for the dead, for soon you will join them. Meanwhile enjoy life.

It's most hated Dictator once said, "Poor Mexico. God is so far and the United States is so near ."--Porferio Diaz

The United States should learn to understand Mexico better before it tries to teach Labor Economics to it. Bush got Canada angry when he went to visit Mexico , instead of Canada, as his first trip.Visitors to the Southwest have noted that Mexico really begins in South Tucson. Sadly, this is partly true.

All I can say is me and daCaaT are going back. Oddly, for a Street-wise DooG , the only city I experienced fear on the streets was Acapulco. The thing I liked least was all the darn "sports" bars advertising American collage football games on many a malacon .

DOOOOOOOOOOG

[caddmannq]

Originally posted by MegalosSkylaki
...Visitors to the Southwest have noted that Mexico really begins in South Tucson...

Are you kidding? South Fresno buddy!

[MegalosSkylaki]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAK !

Fresno, huh?

Remember that time you invited to put us up, me my CaaT, for six months free when you finish your new house--so that we can enjoy the clear Winters and cool Summers tat Fresno is renown for ?

Huh? You don't remember

Well, any how , da Thread is on Mexico, not CAlifornia, or Alta California as it was once named after a place in Spain....Ah ! You DO remember living in Alta California ?

But let's return to Mexico, I pick the spot with palapas on the Riveria, and you...Well, you've certainly heard of Plastic and I for one want to put an end to the rumor that you've been taking remedial GAAAAAAACKESE with this guy.

[caddmannq]

Huh?

Megalos who????

BTW, we moved to Clovis, and are no longer Fresnans.

I think we're Clovites. Or Clovians. Or Clovisiles. Or Clovakians.

Nobody can seem to figure it out.