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11-06-2002, 12:37 PM
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PanIP sueing web sites across US
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If you own or operate an e-commerce web site then you are us. And you need to know that a company in San Diego, Pangea Intellectual Properties (PanIP LLC) is suing companies all across the country. They claim that if you use graphical and textural information on a video screen for purposes of making a sale, then you are infringing on their patent
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PanIP look's like a fraud to me. They are asking for $5,000 to settle
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11-06-2002, 01:39 PM
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This is most outragrous abuse of the legal system I've ever heard of!
This Larry Lockyer character takes out a patent on some pre-existing computer technology, then forms a "shell" corporation (to protect his scummy self) and hires an equally scummy lawyer, Kathleen Walker.
Now they are sueing any small business outside of California that uses some form of website pay system.
Obviously, their strategy is to extort these small businesses outta $5,000 apiece, knowing that the business won't have the financial wherewithal to fight back! So they'll have to pay up!!
All totally legal, of course!!
The only way to fight it would be to have this phony patent overturned, and then start a class-action suit on behalf of those businesses already victimized, and drive these scumbag parasites right into the ground.
Probably cost about a million in legal fees, too. I imagine there's some serious partying going on in a lot of law firms all over the country. |
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11-06-2002, 02:03 PM
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How does this sort of thing happen?
No, really how do people get away with this?
And they have supposedly just sat on it and waited for the market to be in this state?
Just read the patent info, and it doesn't even seem to describe e-commerce, look:
[quote[Each multimedia terminal comprises a video screen and a video memory which holds co-related image-and-sound-generating information arranged to simulate the aspect and speech of an application loan officer on the video screen. The simulated loan officer is used to acquire personal loan data from the applicant by guiding him through an interactive sequence of inquiries and answers. [/quote]
it sounds more like an idea where you go to a company presentation or shop and there are a stack of computers that you sit at on the premesis.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the patent doesn't seen to fit the bill. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,289,319
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11-06-2002, 02:13 PM
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US patent # 7,000,000
I want to patent the Symbols "AEIOUY" and "1XV0" These symbols can be used to create words and numbers. If these symbols are generated on CRT, LED Matrix, Plasma, Ink, Lead, dyes, paint, graphite or chissel a fee of 2 dollars must be payed to me for each use.
This part is actually fact. Do the research.
These letters and symbols were all created by direct ancestors of mine. They were never compensated for the findings.
amendment.
US patent # 7,000,000
The use of any symbols to represent sounds or words such as ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ and symbols which represent the count of something 1234567890 as displayed in the following formats through the use of a CRT, LED Matrix, Plasma, Ink, Lead, dyes, paint, graphite or chissel or sand. Are duely patented to Epidemic as his ancestors did create all of these technologies.
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11-06-2002, 02:16 PM
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Nukes, it doesn't really HAVE to fit perfectly, as you would need a lawyer charging $300 an hour to stack up hundreds of hours of legal screed in an attempt to persuade some fatheaded judge that such is the case.
These small business owners can't afford that, so they pay up.
This is how law is operated in this country. It's legal EXTORTION. That's why people hate lawyers so much, American "justice" has almost nothing to do with right and wrong anymore. |
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11-06-2002, 02:32 PM
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Knothead,
You owe me 238 dollars for the use of my letters.
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11-06-2002, 03:30 PM
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Must definitely suck to be someone running an e-commerce site in the US.
BTW, Epidemic, I'm legally utilizing these letters until such time as you file a patent with the Canadian patent office.
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11-06-2002, 03:41 PM
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11-06-2002, 05:49 PM
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ok, now I am afraid to open my own business. ---Lost-and-Found
| Well, L-a-F, at this point, they're only sue-ing out-of-state business owners, so you're still good to go...
I am sure these creeps will be stopped, but only if some large corporation decides to put period to these legal lice before they rack up TOO many legal precedents.
Which basically means that with every case they win, they have a more compelling legal status. And case precedent is a HUGE part of the legal system. Has nothing to do with justice.
These vermin NEED to be stopped. Or else, pretty soon, they'll be so powerful, it'll take part of the Federal budget to put 'em down.
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