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Old 10-30-2002, 08:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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some rough philosophy

If you've got a minute and the inclination, I'm looking for feedback on an article:

http://www.con.ca/issues/7/14/1248

It's a work in progress, thoughts are appreciated... and before you read it, I apoligize for white washing "Americans" and "Indians" into a single catagory. My mistake, it was a error in the writing (too much emphasis on persuassion, not enough on making a coherent arguement).

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Old 10-30-2002, 08:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, as an Indian now living in the US and having worked with US Companies in India, I want to share a couple (two or three) experiences:

1) When John Deere started exploring the possibiltiy of setting up manufacturing facilities in India in 1994, they hired me as a Business Development Manager and I was part of the multi-national team involved in project feasibility studies. While screening vendors for parts the Deere management was very particular about whom they did business with.

No child labor should be involved. The vendor should pay workers a competitive and fair wage, workers must wear factory uniforms and shoes (many small scale manufacturers in India enploy very poor people who come barefoot to work).

John Deere did not want to be associated with "sweat shops". They were willing to pay more but not compromise on certain business ethics.

2) Lay Americans may be ignorant of India but the business men are not. They are extremely knowledgeable about the business environment, the bureaucracy, the legal system, the financial and tax structures and so on. In fact, to make the project "tax-efficient", we had two attorneys from Moline, Ill and Waterloo, Iowa come to India and advise us to incorporate the Company in Mauritius (a tax haven) as this would not only avoid dual corporate taxation at the hands of the Indian and US Revenue authorities, but also significantly reduce manufacturing taxes (excise/customs).

So to infer the Americans are green is not wholly accurate.

Sure, there are companies in the US willing to employ "slave" labor but most are not like that.

Today, there is such a lot of stigma attached to child-labor in India that virtually no multinational company would take the risk of associating with these sweat shops for fear of adverse publicity. China may be different.

Another reason that US foreign policy has veered in favor of China is that India has a strong democracy which will not bend at US pressure. Nuclear non-proliferation has been a major thorn. Indian position is that if you want to inspect our facilities, we would expect reciprocity. If you want us to open our nuclear power plants to your inspections and safeguards, you must allow us to inspect yours.

The same has been repeated for space technology. US administration's foreign policy uses economic arm-twisting when necessary. India has never succumbed to this and perhaps this has created a barrier.
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Old 10-30-2002, 08:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Today, there is such a lot of stigma attached to child-labor in India that virtually no multinational company would take the risk of associating with these sweat shops for fear of adverse publicity. China may be different.
That's the joy of working in China. If you don't want media coverage you can work that into the deal. Yet another reason why it makes better business sense to deal with a non-democratic regime - control of the media.

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India has a strong democracy which will not bend at US pressure... India has never succumbed to this and perhaps this has created a barrier.
That feeling was what my Indian source suggested was the main reason for any disagreement. When faced with a reflection of the democracy many of these companies grew up in they would rather deal with dictators. In that is a interesting comment on the value of citizens in your own country vs. the value of human life elsewhere.

One of the editing tasks will be to rewrite out the US-centric nature and aim the business bias mainly at multi-nationals. It's not fair to say this is a US issue.

Thanks for the thoughts Shahani, I was looking forward to your POV.
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Old 10-30-2002, 09:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, to say that US companies/economic interests lean towards dictatorship may be inaccurate from another POV. In democratic societies, there are ownership rules and laws. In India, they happen to be very strong and enforced. Fear of seizure diminishes.

I recall a meeting with the CFO of Deere & Co who said that US Companies measure business risk as a function of geographic distance from their corporate HQ. So investing hundreds of millions of dollars 8,000 miles away is risky. But because of the way the legal infrastructure is set up (British legacy- they also set up the railways) JD felt comfortable in bringing in over $300 million to set up the facility.

So this dictatorship regime is a double-edged sword. Good to do business with and very conducive to business if they like you.

On the other hand, doing business in a democracy may not give you a un-level playing field but you are safe.
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From a business POV (ignoring morals and ethics), it is easier to do business in/with dictatorships because they are willing to ignore, break and alter laws in order to get at money.

This goes for both, business and politics, and explains why certain democratic nations do business with and support certain non-democratic nations.
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