Now you maybe understand WHY Tony Blair is with the US...

[Marshall Law]

Thae latest apparent Al-Queda attack on Bali shows doubtful Britons and other European exactely why Tony Blair has been so big on supporting the US's war on terror: terrorists don't care who they kill in their attacks, so long as they can start trouble and get the "cause" publicity.

30 Briton died in the attack, yet I'm sure that peacenicks will still continue to say that war is unnecessary...

pfft...

[Skywalker[TSG]]

Yep they sure do

10 swedes died in that attack and over 20 where wounded
but yet they keep saying that we cant/wont be attacked by terrorists.

I dont really share their stupid opinion
An attack on The US is also an attack on sweden and vice versa.
It's an attack on our whole way of life and our friends and in many cases relatives,and lets not forget the damage on the economy etc.

I have many relatives in the US one of them was almost killed
on that september day a year ago.Also on the same day as the Bali bombing a suicide bomber blew himself up in Helsinki,finland.
Finland was tought by many to be the country less likely to be targeted by such terrorism(they dont know if it was yet but still)
And yet the "peacenicks" says it cant happen here.

It makes me sick !

[Marshall Law]

Exactely - the whole point of NATO and it's alliance is to ensure that countries with an interest in peace have a forum to engage in both diplomatic AND military solutions to ongoing threats.

It would be useless to sit around and chat over tea about why the terrorists do what they do, and not attempt to stop them by any means necessary.

I work in a facility that trains all sorts of people from many different NATO countries to protect their homelands, including much of Scandinavia (including Finland, Sweden, and Norway). I am sure that this kind of treachery has affected your country the same way that it affects ours when we witness such cowardly acts of selfish violence.

[ClubMed]

What a load of bull...

It would be useless to sit around and chat over tea about why the terrorists do what they do

So, if you don't understand how something works, or why it's happening. How then can you fight it, and prevent it from happening?

It's just going to spring up again and again.

Conclusion:
Tea isn't as useless as some think it is. You should drink some. It's good for you.

And Blair...just a poodle, but that's a tea time subject anyway...

[TheBurningCat]

over 200 australians died in the bombings......

The acts were certainly dastardly as are all terrorist acts. Lets see what the investigations reveal and which group claims responsiblity.

To my mind these acts actually detract from the point these organizations seem to want to make.

Killing innocent civilians will never work and its time these terrorists realize it.

[Warthog]

CM, I won't ever be able to understand the justification of killing civilians. Maybe that's not what you meant but that's all I can see occuring.

Warthog

CM's view basically is this as I understand it:

1) Yes, these Arab terrorists/suicide bombers are wrong
2) No, we can't retailate by killing them because you need to understand why they do what they do.
3) Remove the cause/roots of their problems and they will OK
4) Retalliation will not solve anything
5) Until the underlying issues are resolved, you can't fight fire with fire.

This is what I understand, and please correct me if I am wrong.

[Warthog]

2) No, we can't retailate by killing them because you need to understand why they do what they do.

Maybe we should set them all up with counselors to go over their problems

Warthog

[CERuppel]

And as for the "We must go to war!" faction: Just who are you going to attack? You can't tell a terrorist from a shoe salesman, they don't wear uniforms or carry signs.

War is against nations, goverments, and the associated infrastrucures. Not against individuals. And that is what terrorists are; individuals.

If an anti terrorist action is to be successful the first step must be to identify the terrorists. Then action can be planned and used against those identified terrorists. Osama went and identified himself to us last year, thankfully, and the US proceded to take action.

The more recent terrorist actions have not had such announcements attached. And the more action that is taken against terrorists the more they are going to hide thier identity.

Finally; The attack against Afganistan. The US invasion and occupation (by whatever names) were caused by the goverment of Afganistan harboring known terrorists. Since then nearly every known terrorist group has been denounced by the goverment controling the area in which they reside. (Doing anything more is another story).

Conclusion: War is not the most effective tool to use against terrorists. And it should not be the first response.