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Old 10-14-2002, 08:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Christian Theology (response to LinuxNewbie)

In response to LinuxNewbie's doubts regarding Chrisitianity, feel free to post your doubts and anyone will try to answer them :
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oh when i said abusing animals i just meant this pigs thing.... just clearing that up (incase)

jesus wasn't god was he? he's the son of god, i never understood that whole trinity thing

if jesus was so powerful why didn't he just destroy the demons and not harm the pigs?
Regarding your doubt about the trinity, it is indeed One God but three persons, if you care, here is a basic understanding of the to explanation of the trinity :
http://home.nyc.rr.com/mysticalrose/trinity.html
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Here's an example to help you understand: Let's say there are three men - John, James and Joe. Each one thinks, loves and decides for himself, yet they are joined in such a way that they all share the same soul. John can think with James' intellect, because it is also his own; James can love with Joe's will, because it is his will as well.

Now, if we ask John; "Are you a person?" he'd say "Yes, I am a person." James and Joe would say the same thing, for each is a distinct person from the other. Yet we can't say there are three distinct human beings, since they share one human nature among them. Likewise with God. There are not three Gods, there is only one God; one Divine Nature possessed equally and totally by three distinct Persons.
Now once you become deeply involved in the Christian faith, then you would see that the Trinity is invoked in different cases. For example, We may call on Jesus to forgive us from our sins. Whereas God the Father for intentions and The Spirit to strengthen our spiritual lives.
Another analogy, would be to consider the Trinity as different parts of the same body. For example, the ears allow us to hear, legs allow us to walk, and the eyes allow us to see.
In essence, one could say that tasks are divided between them, but they all together function as God.
Again, I or nobody could give a definite answer about the pig issue, all I could do is draw conclusions from the events. My conclusion is given in the previous thread. Look at it this way, Jesus didn't drive it into another human being, rather he drove it into animals. Jesus came primarily, to save human beings, and if had to kill animals in the way, then so be it.
Don't tell me you don't eat meat .... the meat that you eat comes from animals that are slaughtered, much worse than falling into a river (IMO)...
And, BTW Jesus was no vegetarian ... he ate fish, God values human life more than animal life, in fact, he gave us animals to be used as food
There wasn't anything extremely wrong in sending those demons into the pigs, if u think about it.....
Hey, maybe they could have been used as food by someone downstream

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i just can't accept religion because of some biases i have against their pasts.

FYI, the people would not use the animals as food downstream because people are naturaly predators not scavengers. it's just like if you give a dead mouse to a snake, the snake will refuse to eat it.
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Ok LinuxNewbie,
I'm not forcing you to accept any religion, all I'm asking is that you respect it and not spread misconceptions about it.
I was just trying to clear up misconceptions/doubts you had about this religion.
And BTW, that last statement was merely a humorous statement if you couldn't tell by the ....
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ok i have another thing i want you to think about.

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turn this into the religion forum


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Again LinuxNewbie, this is going really deep into Christian Theology. So I'm just giving what the theology behind it is, which may be hard for a non-Chrisitan to swallow, but just want to give you the reason.
First off, no where in the Bible does God say anything about abusing animals.
All that is said is that when God the animals,he was pleased with what he saw. And then he created man which was to rule over all things. So God gave authority to man over every single thing (except another human life).
Regarding your doubt about the Blood:
In the old Testament you could see that someone's sins would be forgiven by sacrificing a lamb at the altar and the Priest would slaughter the lamb and sprinkle the Blood on the altar which was a ritual that was carried out.
Now when Jesus came, he referred to himself as the Lamb many times. This is attributed to two things :
1. The Lamb is a very gentle animal
2. To signify that he would die a death as a sacrifice to forgive sins.
So when he died, he wanted it to signify the ritual that was established a long time ago (thus keeping up with the tradition) and to give his death more meaning. So his blood, in this case, is something that is used to signify the forgiveness of sins.

And yes, this thread was started to clear up doubts regarding Christian Theology or the Bible.
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