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Old 09-30-2002, 03:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i read this at the NeoTF forum, it's a fun feature addon for TFC mod for Half-Life

a guy named Craaaaaazzzzzzy is the maker of this mod... here is the exact dialogue crazy posted

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Session Start (MSN - Crrrazzzy:Thiere DelaRas BeLot): Tue Sep 24 15:12:02 2002
[15:12] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i need help
[15:12] *** Auto-response sent to Thiere DelaRas BeLot: I am currently idle.
[15:12] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: enough with the automated computer responses, i need help!
[15:13] Crrrazzzy: who the heck are you ?
[15:13] Crrrazzzy: and how dare you INSIST
[15:13] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: bernardafigion@hotmail.com
[15:13] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: sorry
[15:14] Crrrazzzy: if you want something from me you ask nicelly
[15:14] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it took me 4 days but i managed to downlaod neo tfc
[15:14] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and i cant activate it, can u help me out?
[15:14] Crrrazzzy: read the manual is always a good start
[15:15] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:15] Crrrazzzy: it explains in detail
[15:15] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says to activate the admin comands and i do
[15:15] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: then it says 2 input a mapname and change level and i do
[15:16] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: but i get confused from there
[15:16] Crrrazzzy: i have no clue what you are talking about
[15:16] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 1 sec
[15:16] Crrrazzzy: NeoTF is an addon and has nothing to do with maps
[15:17] Crrrazzzy: here is an article that might help
[15:17] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says:-----------NeoTF Admin Commands, By Hitokiri_Battousai----------- 
 
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
NOTE: You MUST be AUTHORIZED for you to be able to use any or all of  
these commands.  This means that the server must have your WONID/SteamID/IP  
and your assigned Authlevel listed in the server's ntf_users.ini file.  
Also these commands will only work after 
[15:17] Crrrazzzy: (Link: http://www.planetneotf.com/modules.p...iewtopic&t=412)http://www.planetneotf.com/modules.p...iewtopic&t=412
[15:17] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:19] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it doesnt really help
[[15:19] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: in other words
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: RTFM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: step by step
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: don't jump to step 4 if you haven't read step 1 2 an 3
[15:20] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i thought it wanted me 2 make myself the admin and change map then i can use neo tfc but i was wrong
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: to use admin in neotf you must first INSTALL neotf
[15:21] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:21] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i think
[15:21] Crrrazzzy: so if i were weanting to know how to install it i would read ntf_install.txt
[15:21] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i downlaoded it from the net
[15:22] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: there is none
[15:22] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i cant find a file that says that
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: ntf_install.txt
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: if it is not there then you did not install it
[15:24] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: really?
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: jsut downloading it does not mean you installed it
[15:24] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: so then how do i install it?
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: you have to unzip it
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: did you download it ?
[15:24] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: from the net? yeah
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: did you unzip it ?
[15:25] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes, from the internet
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: no 
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: you said you downloaded it right ?
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: ok once you downloaded it what did you do next ?
[15:25] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: from the internet i unzipped it when the file was finished downloading
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: unzipped it where ?
[15:26] Crrrazzzy: c:\sierra\Half-Life ?
[15:26] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: to the windows folder and then 2 the temp folder inside the windows folder
[15:26] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: oops
[15:26] Crrrazzzy: o jesus
[15:26] Crrrazzzy: d00d to install it into halflife you do not put it in the windows dir
[15:26] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: oh geeze!
[15:27] Crrrazzzy: re-download it into the halflife dir
[15:27] Crrrazzzy: then read the ntf_install.txt
[15:27] Crrrazzzy: :)
[15:27] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i will
[15:27] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: thx
[15:28] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: client file or linux or windows
[15:28] Crrrazzzy: what do you run ?
[15:28] Crrrazzzy: windows or linux ?>
[15:28] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: uh
[15:28] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: is linux a type of internet connection?
[15:28] Crrrazzzy: nope
[15:29] Crrrazzzy: it is an operating system
[15:29] Crrrazzzy: you are probably using windowes
[15:29] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i think i have windows, i could be wrong but is says windows at start up
[15:29] Crrrazzzy: so download that
[15:29] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:29] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: save 2 disk or current location
[15:30] Crrrazzzy: that is up to you
[15:30] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:30] Crrrazzzy: personally i would save it to the desktop
[15:30] Crrrazzzy: or open it 
[15:30] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:31] Crrrazzzy: have fun !!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:31] Crrrazzzy: and any further help questions should be posated in the help and newbie section of the forum
[15:31] Crrrazzzy: :)
[15:32] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
Session Close (Thiere DelaRas BeLot): Tue Sep 24 15:32:05 2002
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Session Start (MSN - Crrrazzzy:Thiere DelaRas BeLot): Tue Sep 24 15:39:44 2002
[15:39] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i installed it
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: now read the manual
[15:40] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: the tfc manual?
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: no
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: the neotf manual
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: ntf_install.txt
[15:40] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 1 sec
[15:41] Crrrazzzy: do you know how to run a server ? one without NeoTF ?>
[15:41] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: know what a listenserver.cfg is ?
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: and liblist.gam ?
[15:42] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: no
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: well you have alot of trial and error ahead of you
[15:42] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:42] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and it still isnt there
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: http://server.counter-strike.net
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: is a good reference place
[15:43] Crrrazzzy: where did you unzip it to ?
[15:43] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i installed it 2 c:sierra half-life and it isnt there
[15:43] Crrrazzzy: in there do you see a dir addons ?
[15:43] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: uh
[15:43] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: a file named addons?
[15:43] Crrrazzzy: no a dir
[15:44] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes
[15:44] Crrrazzzy: c:\Sierra\Half-Life\tfc\addons\NeoTF\
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: look in there
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it has admin commands
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: help
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: got an idea what we are looking for ?
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: no?
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: remember
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it has a changelog
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: ntf_install.txt
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and ntf_intsall client
[15:46] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: dot.dot.dot
[15:47] Crrrazzzy: i am going to strangle you in a minute
[15:47] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: uh-oh
[15:47] Crrrazzzy: look for ntf_install.txt
[15:47] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:47] Crrrazzzy: in c:\Sierra\Half-Life\tfc\addons\NeoTF\
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: better yet type this c:\Sierra\Half-Life\tfc\addons\NeoTF\ntf_install.txt in your run box
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: press the start button
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: then click run
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: and type that
[15:48] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says that it doesnt exist'
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: then do a find
[15:49] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: for ntf_install.txt
[15:49] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: you must have put it in the wrong place
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: or did not unzip it
[15:49] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i will try again to install it
[15:50] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i unzipped it to my half-life folder and it isnt there!!!!!
[15:50] Crrrazzzy: lol then you didn't unzip it
[15:51] Crrrazzzy: otherwise it would be there
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 1 sec
[15:51] Crrrazzzy: unless you have gremlins who are deleting things as soon as you unzip them
[15:51] Crrrazzzy: lol
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: that wud be bad
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: im going 2 the desktop where i saved it onto
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and im ouble clicking on it
[15:55] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and i unzipped to sierra half-life and once again it isnt there
[15:55] Crrrazzzy: how old is your pc ?
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: its an intel ibm celeron with widows me and i got it on march 23rd 3:30 pm
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 2002
[15:56] Crrrazzzy: wow down to the time
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and 50 seconds
[15:56] Crrrazzzy: i bet you still haver the box it cam ein too LOL
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i do
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: great that is a start
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: if i were you
[15:57] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: if u were me u wud cry
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: i would box it back up and take it to the place you bought it from and ask for your money back as you are not the type to own one
[15:57] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i have a modem
[15:57] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: shut-up!
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: these are elimentary problems
[15:58] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i am a computer whiz compared 2 my family
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: when you open it in winzip
[15:58] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yeah
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: do you see the file in there
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: before you unzip it
[15:58] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: elaborate?
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: open the file
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: the winzip
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: you see a bunch of files right ?
[15:59] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says that its being unzipped 2 C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: no
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: don't unzip it
[15:59] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: when you select it
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: winzip is open right ?
[15:59] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: in the winzip windows do you see ntf_install.txt ?
[16:00] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: no
[16:00] Crrrazzzy: what is the name of the file you downloaded ?
[16:01] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: neotf-1.6.1-windows.zip
[16:01] Crrrazzzy: where did you get that from ?
[16:01] Crrrazzzy: that is an old version
[16:01] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i got it from planetneo-tf.com in the official files section
[16:02] Crrrazzzy: http://www.planetneotf.com/modules.p...p=getit&lid=16
[16:02] Crrrazzzy: get that
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: save 2 disk?
[16:02] Crrrazzzy: yes
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: where?
[16:03] Crrrazzzy: desktop
[16:03] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[16:03] Crrrazzzy: then unzip it to halflife directory
[16:03] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: we shall see
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[16:03] Crrrazzzy: while you have winzip open is it in their ?
[16:03] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i have a modem so it might take a while
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 34%
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: um, no?
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: im not very good at this am i?
[16:04] Crrrazzzy: nope
[16:04] Crrrazzzy: brutal but honest
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: lol
[16:05] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i prefer a big fat lie
[16:05] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: give me a big fat lie
[16:07] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: wow
[16:07] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it worked!
[16:07] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: im gonna find out how 2 install neo tf now
[16:09] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: now i need help more than ever
[16:09] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: crazy?
[16:10] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: help me
[16:10] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: please
[16:14] Crrrazzzy: post your problems after reading that into the forum
[16:14] Crrrazzzy: in the newbie and help forum
[16:14] Crrrazzzy: or go to http://help.neo-tf.com 

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LOL

you're right, took a while to read it but it's worth

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Now that was a patient admin, I reckon!!

Seems we sometimes takes newbies for granted, and assume they know stuff we do.

Nice , but long, post, LinuxNewbie.

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quick favor though... whack the email address out of the posts
Just put some junk in there.
Feel sorry for the admin though, nice that he was patient with the guy.. but he should of in fact gone to the forums to ask for help
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i would box it back up and take it to the place you bought it from and ask for your money back as you are not the type to own one
RLMAO, oh I got tears in my eyes, and just think he was the computer whiz in his family lol...
I feel sorry for craaaaazy.

I think he needs to be in the new Thickheaded commercials

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i couldn't stop laughing when i got to this line.

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LOLLLLL... man that was funny as hell!!!
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