i read this at the NeoTF forum, it's a fun feature addon for TFC mod for Half-Life
a guy named Craaaaaazzzzzzy is the maker of this mod... here is the exact dialogue crazy posted
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Session Start (MSN - Crrrazzzy:Thiere DelaRas BeLot): Tue Sep 24 15:12:02 2002
[15:12] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i need help
[15:12] *** Auto-response sent to Thiere DelaRas BeLot: I am currently idle.
[15:12] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: enough with the automated computer responses, i need help!
[15:13] Crrrazzzy: who the heck are you ?
[15:13] Crrrazzzy: and how dare you INSIST
[15:13] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: bernardafigion@hotmail.com
[15:13] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: sorry
[15:14] Crrrazzzy: if you want something from me you ask nicelly
[15:14] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it took me 4 days but i managed to downlaod neo tfc
[15:14] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and i cant activate it, can u help me out?
[15:14] Crrrazzzy: read the manual is always a good start
[15:15] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:15] Crrrazzzy: it explains in detail
[15:15] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says to activate the admin comands and i do
[15:15] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: then it says 2 input a mapname and change level and i do
[15:16] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: but i get confused from there
[15:16] Crrrazzzy: i have no clue what you are talking about
[15:16] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 1 sec
[15:16] Crrrazzzy: NeoTF is an addon and has nothing to do with maps
[15:17] Crrrazzzy: here is an article that might help
[15:17] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says:-----------NeoTF Admin Commands, By Hitokiri_Battousai-----------
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
NOTE: You MUST be AUTHORIZED for you to be able to use any or all of
these commands. This means that the server must have your WONID/SteamID/IP
and your assigned Authlevel listed in the server's ntf_users.ini file.
Also these commands will only work after
[15:17] Crrrazzzy: (Link: http://www.planetneotf.com/modules.p...iewtopic&t=412)http://www.planetneotf.com/modules.p...iewtopic&t=412
[15:17] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:19] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it doesnt really help
[[15:19] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: in other words
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: RTFM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: step by step
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: don't jump to step 4 if you haven't read step 1 2 an 3
[15:20] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i thought it wanted me 2 make myself the admin and change map then i can use neo tfc but i was wrong
[15:20] Crrrazzzy: to use admin in neotf you must first INSTALL neotf
[15:21] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:21] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i think
[15:21] Crrrazzzy: so if i were weanting to know how to install it i would read ntf_install.txt
[15:21] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i downlaoded it from the net
[15:22] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: there is none
[15:22] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i cant find a file that says that
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: ntf_install.txt
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: if it is not there then you did not install it
[15:24] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: really?
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: jsut downloading it does not mean you installed it
[15:24] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: so then how do i install it?
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: you have to unzip it
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: did you download it ?
[15:24] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: from the net? yeah
[15:24] Crrrazzzy: did you unzip it ?
[15:25] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes, from the internet
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: no
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: you said you downloaded it right ?
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: ok once you downloaded it what did you do next ?
[15:25] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: from the internet i unzipped it when the file was finished downloading
[15:25] Crrrazzzy: unzipped it where ?
[15:26] Crrrazzzy: c:\sierra\Half-Life ?
[15:26] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: to the windows folder and then 2 the temp folder inside the windows folder
[15:26] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: oops
[15:26] Crrrazzzy: o jesus
[15:26] Crrrazzzy: d00d to install it into halflife you do not put it in the windows dir
[15:26] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: oh geeze!
[15:27] Crrrazzzy: re-download it into the halflife dir
[15:27] Crrrazzzy: then read the ntf_install.txt
[15:27] Crrrazzzy: :)
[15:27] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i will
[15:27] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: thx
[15:28] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: client file or linux or windows
[15:28] Crrrazzzy: what do you run ?
[15:28] Crrrazzzy: windows or linux ?>
[15:28] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: uh
[15:28] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: is linux a type of internet connection?
[15:28] Crrrazzzy: nope
[15:29] Crrrazzzy: it is an operating system
[15:29] Crrrazzzy: you are probably using windowes
[15:29] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i think i have windows, i could be wrong but is says windows at start up
[15:29] Crrrazzzy: so download that
[15:29] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:29] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: save 2 disk or current location
[15:30] Crrrazzzy: that is up to you
[15:30] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:30] Crrrazzzy: personally i would save it to the desktop
[15:30] Crrrazzzy: or open it
[15:30] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:31] Crrrazzzy: have fun !!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:31] Crrrazzzy: and any further help questions should be posated in the help and newbie section of the forum
[15:31] Crrrazzzy: :)
[15:32] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
Session Close (Thiere DelaRas BeLot): Tue Sep 24 15:32:05 2002
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Session Start (MSN - Crrrazzzy:Thiere DelaRas BeLot): Tue Sep 24 15:39:44 2002
[15:39] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i installed it
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: now read the manual
[15:40] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: the tfc manual?
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: no
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: the neotf manual
[15:40] Crrrazzzy: ntf_install.txt
[15:40] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 1 sec
[15:41] Crrrazzzy: do you know how to run a server ? one without NeoTF ?>
[15:41] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: know what a listenserver.cfg is ?
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: and liblist.gam ?
[15:42] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: no
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: well you have alot of trial and error ahead of you
[15:42] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:42] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and it still isnt there
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: http://server.counter-strike.net
[15:42] Crrrazzzy: is a good reference place
[15:43] Crrrazzzy: where did you unzip it to ?
[15:43] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i installed it 2 c:sierra half-life and it isnt there
[15:43] Crrrazzzy: in there do you see a dir addons ?
[15:43] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: uh
[15:43] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: a file named addons?
[15:43] Crrrazzzy: no a dir
[15:44] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes
[15:44] Crrrazzzy: c:\Sierra\Half-Life\tfc\addons\NeoTF\
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: look in there
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it has admin commands
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: help
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: got an idea what we are looking for ?
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: no?
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: remember
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it has a changelog
[15:45] Crrrazzzy: ntf_install.txt
[15:45] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and ntf_intsall client
[15:46] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: dot.dot.dot
[15:47] Crrrazzzy: i am going to strangle you in a minute
[15:47] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: uh-oh
[15:47] Crrrazzzy: look for ntf_install.txt
[15:47] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: k
[15:47] Crrrazzzy: in c:\Sierra\Half-Life\tfc\addons\NeoTF\
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: better yet type this c:\Sierra\Half-Life\tfc\addons\NeoTF\ntf_install.txt in your run box
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: press the start button
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: then click run
[15:48] Crrrazzzy: and type that
[15:48] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says that it doesnt exist'
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: then do a find
[15:49] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: for ntf_install.txt
[15:49] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i did
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: you must have put it in the wrong place
[15:49] Crrrazzzy: or did not unzip it
[15:49] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i will try again to install it
[15:50] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i unzipped it to my half-life folder and it isnt there!!!!!
[15:50] Crrrazzzy: lol then you didn't unzip it
[15:51] Crrrazzzy: otherwise it would be there
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 1 sec
[15:51] Crrrazzzy: unless you have gremlins who are deleting things as soon as you unzip them
[15:51] Crrrazzzy: lol
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: that wud be bad
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: im going 2 the desktop where i saved it onto
[15:51] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and im ouble clicking on it
[15:55] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and i unzipped to sierra half-life and once again it isnt there
[15:55] Crrrazzzy: how old is your pc ?
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: its an intel ibm celeron with widows me and i got it on march 23rd 3:30 pm
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 2002
[15:56] Crrrazzzy: wow down to the time
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: and 50 seconds
[15:56] Crrrazzzy: i bet you still haver the box it cam ein too LOL
[15:56] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i do
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: great that is a start
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: if i were you
[15:57] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: if u were me u wud cry
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: i would box it back up and take it to the place you bought it from and ask for your money back as you are not the type to own one
[15:57] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i have a modem
[15:57] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: shut-up!
[15:57] Crrrazzzy: these are elimentary problems
[15:58] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i am a computer whiz compared 2 my family
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: when you open it in winzip
[15:58] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yeah
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: do you see the file in there
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: before you unzip it
[15:58] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: elaborate?
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: open the file
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: the winzip
[15:58] Crrrazzzy: you see a bunch of files right ?
[15:59] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it says that its being unzipped 2 C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: no
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: don't unzip it
[15:59] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: when you select it
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: winzip is open right ?
[15:59] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: yes
[15:59] Crrrazzzy: in the winzip windows do you see ntf_install.txt ?
[16:00] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: no
[16:00] Crrrazzzy: what is the name of the file you downloaded ?
[16:01] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: neotf-1.6.1-windows.zip
[16:01] Crrrazzzy: where did you get that from ?
[16:01] Crrrazzzy: that is an old version
[16:01] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i got it from planetneo-tf.com in the official files section
[16:02] Crrrazzzy: http://www.planetneotf.com/modules.p...p=getit&lid=16
[16:02] Crrrazzzy: get that
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: save 2 disk?
[16:02] Crrrazzzy: yes
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[16:02] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: where?
[16:03] Crrrazzzy: desktop
[16:03] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: ok
[16:03] Crrrazzzy: then unzip it to halflife directory
[16:03] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: we shall see
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[16:03] Crrrazzzy: while you have winzip open is it in their ?
[16:03] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i have a modem so it might take a while
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: 34%
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: um, no?
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: im not very good at this am i?
[16:04] Crrrazzzy: nope
[16:04] Crrrazzzy: brutal but honest
[16:04] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: lol
[16:05] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: i prefer a big fat lie
[16:05] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: give me a big fat lie
[16:07] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: wow
[16:07] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: it worked!
[16:07] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: im gonna find out how 2 install neo tf now
[16:09] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: now i need help more than ever
[16:09] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: crazy?
[16:10] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: help me
[16:10] Thiere DelaRas BeLot: please
[16:14] Crrrazzzy: post your problems after reading that into the forum
[16:14] Crrrazzzy: in the newbie and help forum
[16:14] Crrrazzzy: or go to http://help.neo-tf.com