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09-11-2002, 06:32 AM
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American response to 9/11
First an image with an excellent quote from Time Mag (of all places) and then an article about what our reaction has been afterwards from a non-left-leaning journalist (it is a conservative link) Superb article |
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09-11-2002, 07:07 AM
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I read it. Well written and some good points. But not entirely accurate. For example: Quote: |
The good side of this new ethic is that the nation refused to scapegoat Muslim Americans for the 9/11 attacks
| Not true at all. Moslems in this country were focused on sharply, many in Michigan were rounded up and made to report for further investigations, many were deported, students were put under intense scrutiny, moslem organizations were the focus and targets of media attention.......... Quote: |
There is also a downside in the nation's overwhelmingly positive treatment of Muslim Americans.
| No kidding. Moslems got an overwhelmingly positive treatment. Yeah, Right.
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09-11-2002, 07:28 AM
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Indeed Muslims were retaliated against.
A small group of Muslims had the audacity to actually carry out a small parade in Newark, NJ after September 11. When people tried to retaliate the police held them back saying : "They have freedom of expression." Sure enough, mosques and a Muslim school were sabotaged in the following days. My Afghan friend (who had no part in the parade) was mugged. I guess it's cases like these that cause people to blindly retaliate. It's more a form of human behaviour and would of happend anywhere in the world (I could imagine worse in other countries). I'm not saying that it is right, but it was expected.
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09-11-2002, 08:09 AM
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Expected perhaps!!!
But minimal.
As for the Muslims that were rounded up they were sent on their way if nothing of interest was found.
However many of the roundupies were found to be illegals due to visa violations and such.
The muslim community faired very well all things considered.
Hey your friend that was mugged, how is that any different from any other day of the year or prior to 911. You are in the hotbed of crime tri state area.
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09-11-2002, 08:23 AM
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Epidemic, can't you fully agree with what I say once.
Just once.
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09-11-2002, 08:25 AM
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I too was expecting much more of a backlash. I totally agree with what the authorities did in and to my knowledge they didn't go too far... I maybe be wrong there though. The mosques have to be under supervision, irregardless of whether it is a religous institution or not as some of them do indeed harbor terrorists. We've seen religous institutions come under fire in recent times, what makes a mosque any different in this case? Quote: |
Hey your friend that was mugged, how is that any different from any other day of the year or prior to 911. You are in the hotbed of crime tri state area.
| I know that people to get mugged all the time, but it especially hurts when you get mugged for something you didn't do.
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09-11-2002, 08:42 AM
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Shahani:
Moslems (or Muslims, I'm not sure which is correct) were not rounded up, murdered and buried in mass graves, were they? They were granted basic civil rights that would not have been given to Americans in many countries around the world under similar circumstances. In fact, they were most fortunate to have been here rather than some place else following Sept. 11.
It is a fact that these murders were carried out by men for the sake of their Moslem religious beliefs, though horribly misguided. I have yet to hear someone explain why these terrorist attacks are inconsistent with the Moslem religion. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand.
And I don't believe ThomasK's friend was mugged in the name of Allah or any other deity.
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09-11-2002, 08:51 AM
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Moslems (or Muslims, I'm not sure which is correct) were not rounded up, murdered and buried in mass graves, were they? They were granted basic civil rights that would not have been given to Americans in many countries around the world under similar circumstances. In fact, they were most fortunate to have been here rather than some place else following Sept. 11.
| Exactly my feelings JnMHayes...
From what I heard, SOME of the Mullahs (Muslim 'spiritual' leaders) take verses from the Koran, manipualte the words, and they end up being taken out of context. I have seen people do the same with the Bible. Other religions have done, in some cases, worse things but they all underwent a 'renaissance' and reformed their ways. Islam is the youngest of the world's main three religions (others being Judaism and Christianity) and is yet to undergo any major change although some people say that this change is happening.
Perhaps a Muslim TechIMOer could explain better.
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09-11-2002, 09:00 AM
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There is still a bloodrage brewing in many American's. I've seen several decidedly anti-Muslim articles in mainstream media recently. The US is stepping up its efforts to draw support for an Iraqi attack IMO more for revenge against Muslims than for any weapons of mass destruction they are supposedly building. I think a lot of this is because the anniversary is stirring up those emothions again. Up until the anniversary the rage has subsided in most Americans, other than many New Yorkers who are still as angry as they were a year ago.
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09-11-2002, 09:01 AM
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JnMHayes:
I think you misunderstood me. I was commenting on the quotes from the article and in my opinion they are inaccurate. Moslems were made scapegoats. To what extent? No one really know. Moslems treated positively? You believe that?
I condemn these Moslem/Arab terrorists but in all fairness it is untrue to say the normal, avarage Joe Camel in Patterson/Jersey City/NYC was not singled out.
And they deserved to be. As a precautionary measure. I support racial profiling to the extent it is carried out in a proper manner and if it will help root out these type of people.
What I am saying is the article is inaccurate----you can't have your cake and eat it too. That's what I'm talking about.
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