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Old 08-19-2002, 07:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Join The Army??

OK I know theres a good amount of people here that have been in the Army or other branch.
I'm thinking about maybe joining, I would like to hear from real people first other than hearing from someone paid to get me in.
I haven't done really any research about it, Other than looking around GoArmy
Also what would be the best branch to Join?
What Are some good reasons to join? Other than to become a better person.


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Old 08-19-2002, 08:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the best thing to do is to go to the base and talk to the people who actually are doing the job.

I’m an Air Force brat and it has been my pleasure to be one. I have seen how the other services treat there soldiers and wasn't impressed one bit. The Air Force is the ONLY service I would join (and considering joining when I get out of college). What you need to do is think about your future. Get the skills in the service that will be useful on the outside. Now if you become an Army ranger or what not and decide to get out. what civilian job cares if you know how to run with a lot of weight on your back?

Now when I lived on Hawaii and Virginia the facilities and house on the Air Force base were superb! the Naval and Army housing were rat holes that were not taken care of well.

I’m not saying not to join the Army, and everything I have expressed is what I encountered and my opinion
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Old 08-19-2002, 08:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Which is the best? Well, I'm in the USAF, so I'm biased. From the standpoint of service, you will be doing well by your country by joining any branch.

The first step I recommend that you take is going down and taking the ASVAB, to get a feel for your aptiude. I'm guessing you'd do well at about anything, but it might help you narrow down what it is you'd be good at, and would qualify for. There is a huge variety of jobs available, from being a "grunt" (Army and Marines"), to a technician who works on nuclear reactors. Then there's aircraft maintainers, air traffic controllers, Special Forces, meteorologists (my chosen field ), etc. Depends on what you want to do. If you have an idea on what it is you'd like to do, let me know and mabe I can help steer you in the right direction.

As for the different services, it's hard to describe the differences. The Army and Marines have a more hard-core structure and attitude than the Navy, and especially the USAF. Not that USAF training is a joke.....you're put under a great deal of mental stress. While our boot-camp might not be as physically intense as the other branches, your "grace under pressure" will be tested to a greater degree, IMO.

The USAF offers a generally higher standard of living than the other branches, but not always. With the Navy, you run a high risk of being at sea for 6 mos (or more) at a time. That could be cool for a person wanting to get away from their humdrum life, but not so cool if you want to settle down and start a family. In many Army and Marine units, you'll be in "the field", training a lot. The USAF does this, too, but to a lesser degree in most units--but not all.

You must also be prepared to accept the fact that you could very well be called to risk your life for your country. That's one fact that many recruiters tend to gloss over a bit. You will also lose a certain amount of personal freedom. That's not to say you're going to become a mindless drone....far from it. But there are many decisions that civilians make for themselves that are out of most servicemembers hands.

As for personal experiences, here's mine: I joined up because even though I was smart, I blew off school and knew that I could neither get into college nor have the desire to be in a classroom any more. So, I went to the USAF recruiter and signed up. I was hoping for a 9-5 job with decent benefits...no more, no less. I wish I could tell you I did it because of a higher calling to service....but I'd be lying.

So, I made it through basic OK, then my "technical school". It was rough, but I managed to squeeze in some unforgettable times. When it came time for us to get our first assignments, I was hoping for a place back close to home in Oklahoma, where I could go to work and not have to worry about anything else. So I got sent to Hurlburt Field, Florida. HQ of the USAF Special Operations Command. THe most mobile wing int he USAF. I was scared.

Anyway, I wouldn't trade my experience there for anything. Getting away from home and going out and seeing more places before I turned 20 than most people do their entire lives was exactly what I needed. I went on to do an assignment with the Navy, then to work with the Army's 10th Mountain Division. I learned that I thrive in the situations that had scared me so bad in the past. Now that I'm back at a "regular" USAF base, I wish I could be out there with a little more "high-speed" unit. I've come to appreciate our "core values" of integrity, service before self, and excellence in all I do. It sounds kinda corny, but I take pride in those things, whereas I would have never learned them if I'd have stayed back home.

I could go on and on. I guess military experiences will be something different for each individual, but I can guarantee that you will learn much more about yourself than you'd ever imagine possible. I don't make a lot of money and life can suck sometimes, but I wouldn't trade my experiences thus far for anything.

Sorry for rambling......I'm sure I'll be back to this thread.
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Old 08-19-2002, 08:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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People join the Army for many reasons whether it's just a job, an adventure, something in the family tradition, or service to your country. One thing to remember once you sign on the dotted line, the government owns you. Nothing is truly guaranteed like where you'll be stationed or what branch you will be assigned to.
Even with that, I have no regrets from serving.

I don't know how old you are or what your education is but I had joined ROTC in college because they did some cool things and had a job waiting for me out of college after I got commissioned. Do you want to be an officer or rise up in the ranks as a non-commissioned officer? Do you have a particular interest/degree that is suited for communications/engineering/etc? The Army will train anyone to be an infantryman. After my 4 year commitment, I got out into the private sector and now enjoy the corporate life. The best thing I got out of the Army was an Airborne 'can do' attitude. If you have a family to haul around, it may be rough at times. It's an opportunity waiting for you to do some things that you may never do in your lifetime like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.. I'm a native New Yorker and have come across all walks of life and have come met some troops that have never been off the farm. It's a big step in your life and a chance you should take.
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Old 08-19-2002, 09:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well Sounds like USAF is the place to be, I know Im not really interested in going out and running around in the woods for hours or days on end. When it comes to smarts Im not an really that dumb except when it comes to math, Im lost. I have left Highschool because of grades and I know math is one of the main things just about everyone needs, Ive tried but I just cant get it done. So Hopefully theres a good bit of opportunities for people with no math skills(thats one of the reasons I got into computer, it does most of the math for you.)
Im defitly wanting to get away from my home life and wouldnt mind leaving the state too. I dont think Risking my life would be a problem, Ive never really been put in that situation but would if I needed to.

I think I answered most questions in there. Except for the parts about what I would want to do/or be in the service, I just dont know, Cause I dont really know what I would be good at.
Maybe I will visit one of the recuritment offices near me, Luckly they are all right close together(except for the army, Ive never seen it)
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Old 08-19-2002, 09:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hmmm....this kinda sticks out to me:

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I have left Highschool because of grades
Does that mean you dropped out entirely? Unless policies have changed recently, I don't believe the USAF will take anyone without a HS diploma. I'm fairly certain that the other services require at least a GED, but I'm not certain there. As you pointed out, just go talk to the recruiters and see what's possible.

I still think that regardelss of whatever branch you might join, and in whatever career field, it's all worthwhile experience.
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Well Yes, Im planning on taking my GED test pretty soon though.
I found this About GEDs
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Old 08-19-2002, 09:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well I did a tour in the USN. From my unbiased standpoint I must say that the order of the services should be as such:

From a difficulty stand point.
USAF. 4
USN. 3
USArmy. 2
Marines. 1

I think you would have to become a seal in the USN to get the kind of pride of the marines though.

Marines are hard but they seem to be extremely cohesive and take it as part of their being. So that has some merrit. But they take a bit too much for me. Sorta robot like to me. But they definitely take pride in their work.

USN you never get muddy. That has to be a plus. With no serious navys out there you are pretty safe. Exception is the Air craft carrier. Special services like the seals might give you the cohesive pride and such. But you is the first one in. Every little petty political skirmish the goverment wants to get into you are going to be crawling around behind enemy lines.

Airforce - nothing against them but they have pretty cushy duty all in all.

I don't know much about the shallow water sailors. They see alot of domestic action. But in general I do not know much about them.

I owe my carreer to the USN. They had terrific education in the 80's and probably now in electronics.

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Old 08-19-2002, 10:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I did 8yrs Army.

All in all, enjoyed it. I would recommend military service to anyone.

Sure there were times that were not so good, but you'll find they exist in just about every walk in life. I got a lot of good training, developed a sense of personal responsibility, and got to see a lot of the world.

People I knew were, for the most part, professional, well trained, and honest - you can't ask for more than that.

Whichever branch you decide on, if you do - make sure you are getting on of the new education plans - they are simply fantastic.


Best of luck - and there is life after boot camp.


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Don't forget to talk to Wart...
Although I'm SURE he's out jogging at the moment getting ready to join himself
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