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08-14-2002, 05:06 AM
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Iran Says U.S. Leaders 'Misused' Sept. 11
NY Times
Are we supposed to let the terrorists destroy whatever they want and do nothing?
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08-14-2002, 05:11 AM
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link is dodgy, says you need to sign up
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08-14-2002, 05:11 AM
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it's painless and free.
I forgot that I have signed up.
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08-14-2002, 03:03 PM
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There's alot of anti-American sentiment growing based upon our perceived arrogance and squandering the sympathy generated after 9/11.
Did anyone read the article in today's USATODAY?
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08-14-2002, 03:19 PM
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Having gone to an English school here, I have many American friends. I have debated with them about politics a lot. And I notice one thing that they all have in common:
They seem to be unable to differentiate, or accept, that criticism and anti-Americanism are two completely different things.
Perhaps this is something in the American culture, such as when Bush said "You’re either with us or against us"? As if only two extremes exist in life?
This is not an attack at anyone here, so please don't take it that way. It's an honest observation, and question.
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08-14-2002, 03:20 PM
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Well, face it. We can pretty much attack and blow the hell out of whomever we choose, and it's been that way for a long time.
As soon as we start talking about wiping Saddam's clock, other nations start thinking: "Gee it could be us next!
People hate what they fear. They fear we are out of our minds.
But the key is to just go ahead and do whatever we think we must, and let the chips fall where they may. When the chips are down, our allies aren't gonna send troops to fight for Iraq.
Eventually, things get back to business as usual.
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08-14-2002, 04:11 PM
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Well we're the big guy on the block. It's great fun to bad mouth us - its just the way it is. But, when the chips are down, and a 9/11 happens - thats when you find out who your friends are.
We've always been seen as a big, bumbling, pop-culture crazy, foreign-policy backwards nation - thats what we are. Well guess what? So is everyone else, they just don't do things in such a big way.
Once in a while, some idiot provokes us - and we get mad, maybe we over-react - but its few and far between.
Ken
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08-14-2002, 04:33 PM
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The author P.J. O'Rourke once made a hilarious (and IMO, spot-on) analogy about the U.S. and certain other countries.
Basically, America is like a beautiful 23-year-old woman, sleek, independant, and free. Whereas, those places are like a pocky 13-year-old boy, full of burgeoning ideas (not to mention hormones); Hopelessly in love, and we take no notice whatsoever.
So, if they can't get us to notice them, then at least they can try to annoy us. "Well, we are better than they are!" they are wont to say. Just sour grapes, IMO.  | |
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08-14-2002, 05:34 PM
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Wow, powerful thread!
Let us not forget that +3K INNOCENT people died that day!
In a place called the WORLD Trade Center! Not The American Trade Center!
There is a lot more support out there than maybe you realise, British subjects died in WTC as did Chinese, Russian, Cuban, Libyan.The world supported the US in The Afghanistan Situation, and still does.
Politics is politics, and testicles are the things betwen the legs!
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08-14-2002, 05:40 PM
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Knot,
The problem with that analogy is, that there are other beautiful women out here, some of them good friends, some older and wiser, that still have a problem with some of Miss Americas ideas and deeds.
As clubmed said, not all criticism is malicious (or sour grapes).
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