Ted Nugent on crime/ 3 strike rule

[daveleau]

My wife sent me this awesome quote by Ted Nugent. While I don't really have an ear for his music anymore (I liked it when I was younger), I love his politics.

Not three strikes, one strike! We're not gonna give up two of our kids before the guy gets locked up. We don't want two rapes to take place. One violent felony and you're outta here. You rot. You wrestle people for toilet paper in an overcrowded cell. You're gonna end up as a sexual toy for some recidivistic, unclean heathen in a small jail cell, sad and crying and repentant for the rest of your life - but that's tough! You messed up! It's over, rover! The rest of us are trying to have a good life, so GET OUT OF OUR WAY!

Another great one by him:

"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." --Ted Nugent

[angelcat]

the only problem I can see with that first quote is, no matter what happens, the little guy is always going to have to pay for the mistakes of the ones commiting the crimes. Either by having the crimes that attack them, or by having to pay so these jerks that commites the crimes, can sit there, in jail, and cry that it is thier rights to have three meals a day, and cable tv, and so on...... Why don't they make these fools have to earn thier living behind bars, instead of making the public pay for them?

[CERuppel]

Don't piss off the cat today....

[RayH]

The Chinese have an easier solution--they execute a lot of felons. Over half of the court ordered executions worldwide annually are carried out in China. Peddle drugs, murder people, or steal too much money and you're an organ donor!

Consequently, they have a criminal justice system that has one of the world's lowest incarceration rates. It's prison system also has one of the lowest RECIVIDISM rates in the world.

I'll go along with both Nuggents' "one strike" suggestion, and the ideas RayH's reported for reducing the prison population.

[desmocat]

make 'em bust rocks while inside..
OK boys, make little un's outta the big un's...

[RayH]

Under the American criminal justice system, the only ones getting justice is the criminal. Instead of begging for mercy, convicts are hollering for justice!

The convicted criminal should be someone who has to make ammends or do pennance for misdeeds. But instead, the convict becomes a ward of the state with entitlement to better living conditions than that of the unemployed or underemployed.

The incarcerated are entitled to better living quarters than officers aboard a naval vessel. Prisoners are entitled to better medical care than the unemployed or underemployed. Prisoners are also entitled to better meals than the homeless. And, they will sue if they don't get their issue.

A&E did a program about prisons around the world. It started with a maximum security prison in Colorado. The prisoner hit and spat on the guards and had to be subdued by "extraction" team. Conditions in prisons in other parts of the country didn't seem much better.

I was very impressed with the segment about the Chinese prison. Never mind any propaganda, etc. The important thing was that the state, and not the prisoners, were apparently totally in charge. The prison was clean and the prisoners had to do what they were told.

I can image that prisoners who screw up there are either sent to some gulag or just executed. So, in just being able to serve time in a Chinese prison maybe the convict feels greatful!

[crazyray]

I wonder if the Nuge would apply this to cases of statutory rape...

Certainly such a serious charge should have no statute of limitations. How many strikes would Ted give himself on THAT one?

He has written a new book, for the back yard BBQ'er


uh, are we talking about Ted Nugent or Criminal Punishment?

Not three strikes, one strike!
I've always wondered about the 3 part.... After all is this real life or a baseball game. If someone doesn't understand what a felony is and what the consequences are after going through the judicial system once.. 2 more trips through aren't going to make them understand. After all a Felony is a Black and White issue. Not some esoteric concept.

[RayH]

Criminals will tell you it's not necessarily the original crime itself that is a problem (with the sentence), it's the ENHANCEMENTS! In California, the first strike is a "regular" sentence. The second strike is a MANDITORY twice the code maximum. The third time (if you are still young enough) is TWENTY FIVE years to life!

Remember the life sentence for the pizza thief was for the knife he held to the delivery boy's throat; not the pizza!