Immigrant Insanity

[DangerSeeker]

I am ENRAGED. I live in St. Louis, and there is currently a discussion involving the Bosnian community. It seems they don't think they're getting enough. I am not a prejudice man, but I am not an ignorant one, either. I see all around me, born American's, suffering, starving, and homeless. Yes, many are of their own demise, hooked on substances readily available on any street corner downtown (much of which are the legally available and taxable alcohol). But by no means, are most out of reach from help that could get them on the path to become healthy citizens. And we have the Bosnians, who are getting multi-year tax breaks, business loans, and low interest credit that many of our own citizens in relatively good standing do not qualify for, simply because they were born in our own country. Some bleeding hearts our there are so busy whining about war-torn countries, they completely ignore our own priorities, or at least what should be.

There are currently over 50,000 Bosnians in this helping-hand program in St. Louis. What I would like to know is how is it we can afford to help so many, yet our schools are being condemed, our children are getting little medical help from the lead poisoning discovered in so many areas (another beauty of our government, who continued to used lead-based paints for more thatn 20 years after European scientists discovered it's extreme health hazards), and our elderly are losing everything they own just to be kept alive in understaffed, mismanaged, and often abusive community homes. How can we so blindly misprioritize our future (children) and just forget about those who have endured so much and brought our country off its knees from the depression (our elders). But hey, it's alright, because we're helping refugee from other countries to make up for it.

And the greed these Bosnians have is going to bring about much hate against them, and it's by their own doing. And if their greed persists, the hate they will encounter will be much deserved. A family of 8 from Bosnia can get enough aid from our country to have all the adults in the house driving BRAND NEW vehicles ($30-40k a piece), and the kids get them even more help from all sorts of groups...when's the last time you saw a native family in hardships get that much help??? And yet they [Bosnians] say it's not enough.

RAGE is what I feel when I see so many neighbors struggle so futily to barely stay alive, when if they had been from another country, more help than they could dream of would have been laid right in their lap.

[Cruez]

Add to the list that pisses me off even more....what a bunch of crap....

[ClubMed]

[Theophylact]

I hope this isn't another of those Ronald Reagan "welfare queen" stories. Are you saying they're driving $30-40,000 cars, or that with eight in the family the amount of support they're getting would pay for one? There's a difference, you know. The 2001 poverty level for a family of eight in the contiguous 48 states is $29,730.

The 50,000 Bosnian refugees in the St. Louis are mostly Muslims from Srebenica. This isn't just another excuse for a xenophobic antiMuslim rant, is it?

[Knothead]

I haven't heard much about this, but this sounds (to me, at least,) similar to the anti-Irish sentiments of the 19th century.

It's very difficult to move to a whole 'nother country and culture, and try to assimilate into it. So when the current boatload of refugees from Absurdistan or Upper Revolta gets here, well yeah, there's going to be a certain amount of concessions made to help them out....

....but I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that $30-40K cars are being distributed to 'em like napkins at a barbeque.

Times are rough right now, and the temptation to point a finger at some group or another (in order to have someone to blame) can be very strong. Just IMHO.

This isn't just another excuse for a xenophobic antiMuslim rant, is it?

I hope not.

[Epidemic]

Simply put.

If government is in the business of give aways. Which they should not be. However, if they are, The give aways should be to those with an investement in the USA. During one of the invasions from haiti, my brother in law had a heart attack, he had huge medical bills and the family lost their bread winner. When they applied for food stamps the received the run around. When he applied for un employment he received the run around. At each turn the government took every chance to screw an born american and help the Aids infected Haitian over the born american. This is wrong.

My brother in law and sister almost lost everything. This is what they do the the tax paying americans. But charity to illegals and imigrants goes on un empeded.

I am sorry for their lot in life. But you help your own out before you assist the world. If you can not make it in america as an un assisted new comer. You go home. Sorry. But life is hard.

I am not prejudiced, I am tribal. My tribe gets before any one elses tribe.

[Cruez]

amen to Epidemics thoughts...

and to add...

You help the helpless before you help the lazy...

[Theophylact]

Hey,Knothead, judging by Epidemic's

At each turn the government took every chance to screw an born american and help the Aids infected Haitian over the born american

this thread does begin to look like another opportunity for xenophobic rants: first Bosnians, now we get Haitians. What immigrant/minority/sexual/religious group is next -- any takers?

[ClubMed]

[Epidemic]

Theophylact,

Look if my tax dollars are going to be spent, they should be spent on citizens before illegals.

I have nothing against imigrants. Nor Haitian imigrants. But if you come to this America and imediatly end up on some form of public assistance you do not belong. You can not deport citizens but you sure as He11 can deport illegals and non performing imigrants.

You do not give 40,000 dollars of my money to a family of 8 so that they can exist in my country. That family of 8's costs are even greater if you factor in the 5,000 dollars per child of education annually, government subsidized medical and so on.

When you are imigrating to America I believe that we have the right to demand that you support yourself or go leach off some european socialist society.

My brother in law deserved some public assistance because he has given 4 years in the USN, Because he has payed taxes for 20 years, because he is an american citizen.

If you can not see the difference between this and xenophobia you are a Liberal name calling fool.

When you have no arguments that are worth the powder to blow them up with you resort to name calling.

I have no problem with hard working self supporting peoples from any race or religion.

Now you are going to say that america was built on the backs of imigrants. That is right. However since the social welfare state exists people do not come here simply to eek out a living many come her to reap the benifits of the hard working imigrants that built this country for nothing more than the right to earn a living.

When the Irish, Italians, pilgrims imigrated to America they knew it was sink or swim. The same should be true now. As for illegals I think they should be on the next boat. No education benifits. and the children of illegals should be shipped with them. I know the law does not support me on this but to be citizen you should have at least one citizen, Naturalized or born to become a citizen and reap the benifits of America.

Tell me where I am wrong. Do not name call.


CM,

Educate me tell me why we should support illegals and non producing imigrants?