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Old 06-05-2002, 06:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Canadian policy partly to blame for 9/11?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1315,00.html

Interesting article. I cannot go as far to say that it is Canada's fault, but I think the US should put much, much stricter guidelines on bordercrossings. We need to plug the holes to the southa dn to the north.

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Old 06-05-2002, 06:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We need them to respond and respond quickly. I would give them a month to come up with strict entry policy and 2 more to implement it or begin sanctions. Until that time I think we should have blackhawks running up and down the border looking for people who cross illegally.

Sanctions would include the halt to all commercial traffic to and from the US.

then a halt to canadian travel to the US.

There policy is unreasonable and puts an undue threat on the USA. With friends like that who needs enemies.

15,000 people with out paper since 911. And 2500 of them from suspect nations.

Canadians out there what do you think is this right or wrong.

I know you are not enemies but the threat your country poses to us is kinda unfair dont you think.
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Old 06-05-2002, 07:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This border enforcement is extremely important to preserve this nations security. The steps taken to reorganize the FBI/CIA are in the right direction.

But, let us not lose sight of the fact that the "enemy may be from within". It will be far tougher to keep a tab on people already in this country, of whatever nationality, and their links and communications with the likes of Al Quida. Don't for a moment think the Al Quida will not stoop low enough to "hire" mercenaries in Europe, homicide bombers that don't have that Middle Eastern appearance, and so on. Thats the tough part.

Clearly, life will no more be as carefree here as we are used to.

And, perhaps, that is one of the objectives of evil organizations like the Al Quida.
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Old 06-05-2002, 08:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So many people travel to and from the US/Canada border - preventing them from doing so would put a huge cap on economic growth and slow performance in some sectors to a halt. I know countless people who own property in the U.S. who are there all the time.

Anyway, this type of conversation is tiring on my nerves - and having to explain so much of the same drab, and then some seems pointless at times.

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There policy is unreasonable and puts an undue threat on the USA. With friends like that who needs enemies.


I agree. Canada's screening processes are insufficient.

Although, I'd probably bet cash that someone probably had the spotlight pointed on THEM - so they pointed at Canada.

Something else you must realize is that we have an absolutely retarded (a more than sufficient comment..) Prime Minister where hearing his ideas and methodology is enough to make you puke - and until he is REPLACED, this country will continue to unimpress many in aspects such as this.

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Brandon,

You don't believe that halting trade would make them react quickly. I don't believe it would take more than a week before they he broke and instituted the changes required.
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You don't believe that halting trade would make them react quickly. I don't believe it would take more than a week before they he broke and instituted the changes required.
Before WHICH side halted trade? You import our water, gas, oil (10% (around 2000 barrels per day) of your imported oil comes from us..), and more. And a lot of it. Not to mention that Canadians vacationing in America is a billion dollar industry.

lol... So amusing.

Also... As for the U.S. beating it's chest and imposing restrictions on countries, namely Canada to MAKE them change their rules... Well, I doubt it would be adviseable by anyone. Canada's tolerance for such non sense would not go far at all - and I doubt the U.S. would be the winner in the long run. Such under-estimations cause more bad than good.

[edit] by the way - what DOES Canada import from the U.S.?! Light bulbs and christmas ornaments? lol... I know exotic fruits (ie. Oranges, Bananas)...

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Old 06-05-2002, 08:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The people who planned, did, and then harbored the murderers and the Gov'ts that harbor their members are entirely responsible for 9/1/2001.

Even if the United States Government or any of its Agencies did something stupid along the way , the murderers continue to be entirely and e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-l-y responsible for the murders.

They have stolen our people's lives. They have stolen our children's education, our parent's peace, my loved one's sleep, the city's and others jobs, the future of our industries--and have put hate in the hearts of Americans even those who did not have it.

The last girder should never have been removed from Ground Zero.

It should have been kept as a hanging post for every last person who had a hand in this --before, during, or after the mass murder.

No one else is in any way responsible for this act. The murderers and their willing accomplices are.

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Old 06-05-2002, 08:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I fully agree.
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So trade is only one way between America and canada???

Let me see Trade is trade even if it is only the transfer of funds.

If you do not sell your oil, gass, and your people have to freeze their buts off all winter because they cant vacation has no impact on your economy.


Hmmm, We can cut back on gas aka rationing and so on but can you cut back on government spending aka health care.

I believe that a halt to trade would be quite effective...
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Old 06-05-2002, 09:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Who says our oil, gas, water, power, etc. has to go to you? I happen to know that our commodities are in high demand in *many* places OTHER than the U.S.

Do you HONESTLY believe that if trade was cut off between the two countries that Canada would have the raw end of the deal? Let's pull our minds out of fifth grade and think LOGICALLY here.

I grant you, though, the narrow-mindedness is QUITE amusing.
Let's look at it THIS way... If all trade was cut off, would Canada be economically devastated? Of course! Would the U.S. suffer more in destroying 1/5th of it's import base? You bet...

As for some simple rationing of gas - I'm guessing you're thinking the U.S. doesn't import much gas and oil from Canada. :-/ Think again.

Also - Let's be realistic. Would it be in the best interests of the U.S. to make the gigantic country that sits next to them an arch nemesis? The U.S. and Canada are pals, minus a few whackos here and there and some recent controversy - all of which is fueled purely by politics.


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