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Old 06-04-2002, 02:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HOW $ MUCH SHOULD CEO's Get Paid ?

Last year the avarage profits of S&P 500 Corps went DOWN 35 %.

The avarage (by median) $PAY$ of CEO's went $UP$ 7%.
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"A financial genius is a rising stock market"--John K. Galbraith
Wow ! These must have been financial geniusus in a falling market !

You can bet your bottom dollar your Co. treats your compensation like any other other commidity--the best for the least $.

Why doesn't capitalism apply to CEO's and other high Execs--like the Men's Club at one Cell Phone Co.?

Today in NYC the CEO of TYCO (?) was indicted in Manhattan foe tax evasion of about one million dollars.

The Co.is in the toilet--yet he and his Partner reputedly took out a half $billion$ from the Co. in that last five years.

The practice of "bonusing" Execs based on stock market prices only encourages inflating profits NOW and delaying charges LATER.

Anybody say Enron ?

Why give an Exec a bonus for a 4 % rise in stock prices when benchmark went up 7% ? Why not index bonus against a benchmark?

BETTER yet .

Why not do with Execs what execs do with workers: Pay them the absolute least they would work for. If somebody won't run a Co. for a lousy 2 $ million a year--find somebody who will.

Remember the severance package Disney paid to a fired Exec: something like 100 $million ?

(The owner of the last place Pittsburg Pirate was asked how he could trade away a great player. His response: "If I could finish in last place with him, I can finish in last place without him.)

Let capitalism rule in the Executive Suite !
Pay Execs the least you can get away with.
I am sure that is not twenty million dollars a year. With a fifty mil$bonus/stockoptions.

And what kind of work ethic do they have if they need a "bonus" to perform?

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Old 06-04-2002, 03:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We need pay caps on CEO's like in another country.

Limit their pay to 32x that of the lowest paid person in the company )

I'd like to see this implemented nationwide..
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Old 06-04-2002, 05:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think that the CEO's pay should be firmly capped at a reasonable number and that their pay should be based majorly on corporate performance.

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Old 06-04-2002, 05:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea I agree - but, I'm seriously lookin for a CEO job - I figure I can run a company into the ground as good as the next guy - and for that kind of money - shhheeeeeeeeeeeee@@@@@@ttt!!!!!!!
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Old 06-04-2002, 07:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yea I agree - but, I'm seriously lookin for a CEO job - I figure I can run a company into the ground as good as the next guy - and for that kind of money - shhheeeeeeeeeeeee@@@@@@ttt!!!!!!!



I agree. But, OTOH, money motivates.
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I work for a startup company, i haven't been paid in 8 weeks.... i'm tryin to find a second job so i can afford to work at my real job... the ceo and president haven't had a paycheck in over a year though
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We need pay caps on CEO's like in another country.

Limit their pay to 32x that of the lowest paid person in the company )

I'd like to see this implemented nationwide..
But then they would only hire temps or contractors to replace the lowest 50% paid employees.
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Old 06-04-2002, 08:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hmmm...Let's ask the guy who just got laid off (er, downsized, that is,)after 10 or 20 years on the job, owing to managerial screwups (unanticipated shortfalls, profit-wise) etc. etc.,

...who just read that the CEO and his "cabinet" will enjoy pay hikes, perks, stock dividends, and the "golden parachute" for when the greed for short-term profit finally drives the corp. into the ground....

I'll bet THAT guy would have some pretty colorful and inventive ideas for what to do about these guys.
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Old 06-04-2002, 09:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well I guess I have to be contrary man again.

If you start a company up and devote years into the development and risk your own capitol should you make as much money as you want.

Now as for the corporate CEO Why are you not one now. Did that ceo keep the company from going bankrupt even though the value went down. Could you have done that. They put in the time and corporate america says it is ok.

What valid reason is there to cap the CEO's salary other than the rich guy is getting too much money. Should Bill Gates the inventor of the PC generation be limited to a few hundred thousand dollars.

On the surface I like the 32 times cap but it is really unfair. What you are saying is that you want communism. Where everone gets the same money. Well what happens to the mansion builders, the yacht builders, Lamborgini, Lotus, porche. Rich people pay through the nose and feed the economy as well.

Now if you wanted it to be the mean of the employee salaries * 100. there you may have a point. We need filthy rich people to. i am one of those who you would call not rich.

If you won the lottery would you give 3/4 of it to charity. What about your kids and their kids you just gave away their nest egg.

Every one hates the rich but were they rich most would find some way to keep their money.

If you are not going to pay ceo's. Then sports figure should make no more than 32 x minimum wage.
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*shudder*... I would gladly pay any CEO before I paid a "sports figure"...
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