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Old 05-03-2002, 07:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Another good question for everybody!

Ok, here's the scenario...
You're out and about just enjoying life and you see a woman who is definitely pregnant smoking a cigarette or boozing it up. What do you do?

Ignore her, because after all it's none of your business...

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I'm not voicing my opinion just yet, I want to see what's thrown out there...aside from grenades!


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Old 05-03-2002, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Clear the decks!!

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Old 05-03-2002, 08:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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LMAO! You know me, I should change my name to Mayhem...
I like controversy, it's good for the soul!

This time I'm ready!



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Oh, WHO TOLD HIM HOW TO POST PICTURES!?!

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Old 05-03-2002, 08:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Good question? Dunno if I agree with that.

This is definitely not a win-win situation, Martoch. There have been courts unable to decide what to do about this, so it makes my opinion kinda puny in comparison.

Kinda like drunks. Who has the right not to allow someone to booze themselves into cirrhosis? If they don't DUI and don't hurt anyone else, is it illegal? Or even immoral?

Now, I know the case here is the foetus not the mother, but when does the foetus begin it's own identity, and when does the mother's rights to her own body stop?

I'm not supporting women who smoke whilst pregnant; far from it. But is it up to me to make her stop?

As a health professional, I possibly would have a word to her about the potential effects on her unborn child, given the right opportunity. But that is all I would do. I would also reinforce it is her choice, provided she understands the risks she runs. I would NOT attempt to superimpose my opinons onto her.

That's my opinion anyway.

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PS Martoch - I don't really think that much will be achieved by bashing smokers with more anti-smoking information. They get enough already, and still choose to continue. All we can do is encourage them not to harm others if they persist in their habit. IMO, anyway
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PS Martoch - I don't really think that much will be achieved by bashing smokers with more anti-smoking information.
I'm not bashing smokers, I used to be one! Besides, I said smoking or drinking...I just wonder what's going on in everyone else's minds from time to time...nothing more, nothing less. Controversial subjects are intersting to me. I do, however, maintain a high level of respect for my "opponents" on any issue. Whether people agree or disagree with me doesn't make me treat them any less dignity.

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What Mick said.
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Old 05-03-2002, 08:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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What Mick said.
Sure...take the easy way out! LOL!
I'm with Mick on this one also to be honest...fine line between the identity issue, I would have to read up on it before voicing my opinion on who's choice it really is. Nicely put Mick...
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Re: Another good question for everybody!

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Ok, here's the scenario...
You're out and about just enjoying life and you see a woman who is definitely pregnant smoking a cigarette or boozing it up. What do you do?

Ignore her, because after all it's none of your business...

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I'm not voicing my opinion just yet, I want to see what's thrown out there...aside from grenades!

You have to ignore her. Or at best, somehow become her friend and encourage her to take care of herself and her baby.

Unfortunately what she is doing isnt against the law. She isnt hurting you or anyone esle. There isnt anything you can do about it.

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Or at best, somehow become her friend and encourage her to take care of herself and her baby.
Man, what a great answer. So simple, it plumb evaded me.

No "making her wrong", no confrontation, no anger...

Just good humans helping each other, without presuming moral superiority. I like it, Jman.
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