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Old 04-23-2002, 04:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks very much to all. I appreciate your advice, help and kind words. I'm hoping that it won't require surgery, we shall find out tomorrow morning.

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Thank goodness for the latest surgical techniques in gallbladder surgery. It is much easier now than 5 or 10 years ago. Used to be a sign to look for gallbladder problems with the 3 F's, female, fat, forty.

This surgery used to be really really hard on the body. (Mother in law did real bad with this surgery a while back) Be sure to go to a hospital that does this surgery ALOT.

Just some info here from slight experience, take it for what it's worth and I hope it helps.
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My wife had gall stones early last year
Was horribly painful for her, she too had a hard time finding a doctor that would diagnose it correctly.

She got the surgery, and within a month of fully healing she was doing MUCH Better and still to this day doesn't have any problems other than as noted before of running through you
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I had my gall bladder removed a year ago. Same symptoms. stomach pain, similar to bad gas but much worse. Turns out out it was gangrenous and could have done me much more harm. The surgery was a breeze, 3 1/2 days in the hospital and I was almost back to my old self. Problems did crop up about 2 mos. later in the form of stones left behind. THe nature of the new form of surgery is so less intrusive that they actually couldn't see them until they move into a duct. 2 1/2 more and I was fine. If your dad's does have to come out, the doctor will probably recommend a high fiber diet just to keep things moving....
Other than a dietary change for me, I've had no ill side affects from it being removed.

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Old 04-23-2002, 06:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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My mom had this too, but they didn't use surgery. They blasted the stones with ultrasound. No surgery.

There is only one prevention- drink lots of beer or Vodka. You'll never get these painful stones.

Good luck to your dad and hope he's better now.
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Are you sure the vodka works? I'm pretty certain that I'm drinking too much water and not enough vodka.
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Old 04-23-2002, 09:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Gall stones are composed of mineral deposits which build up over time, and seems to be related to fats in the diet.

Gall stones present in the gall bladder often don't create problems until they find their way into the ducts through which bile should flow - they then block the way, and bile builds up causing pain, and local infection is also common because of the lack of bile flow.

Surgery nowadays is quite simple, involving a "keyhole" incision and use of telescopic instruments to breakup and remove the stones and / or gallbladder. Ultrasound (lithotripsy) breakup of the stones is another method sometimes used, but has a higher recurrence rate than surgery, and doesn't always work.

You can live without a gallbladder quite easily as it doesn't make the majority of bile the body uses to break down fats, but you have less ability to handle large amounts of fats at once in your diet as there is no big pile of bile waiting to be secreted.

I have never heard of vodka being useful in prevention of gallstones - maybe of kidney stones, as it's a fluid. Maybe a excessive intake of vodka limits your fat intake, though - too drunk to eat?

<edit> apparently naturopaths recommend vodka to prevent gallstones. Never heard a surgeon recommend it though </edit>.

Hope all goes well for your dad, club, and I too would recommend a hospital where they perform these procedures often. practice makes perfect, they say. Nothing worse that watching a surgeon who is operating and reading the instructions at the same time!

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Here's a good on-line info source:

http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/dige...s/gallstns.htm

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My gall bladder "died" in September of 1989.

It was removed the old fashioned way... a 5" slit in my belly.

No problems since then.
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Thanks for the tips!

Off to the hospital now. Hope all will be well with him. I'll keep ya posted.

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