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Old 03-15-2010, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Should we need to considering don’t do business with American?

Dear All:
Hello! I am Heather from Shenzhen Star Packaging Product Company Ltd (www.xcgs.com). I am a business woman and do business with the foreigners for more than 1 year. Most of the foreigners are friendly. But the recent one month I meet a bad customer. The matter is as below:
On Jan, 15th,2010, I get a order for kraft bubble mailer from Mandy(lovelymandy37@gmail.com) who is a assistant and work for Origin8rs Global Inc in China. Because we are all Chinese and have discussed the details of the order for a long time. Such as the quantity, unit price, shipping method and payment .So I don’t suspect their sincerity of this order.
But in today, I am very disappointed to find that the Origin8rs Global Inc company(Origin8 Inc - About Us ) is a cheater. And the boss of this company is a dishonesty person.
As we discussed before, when the bubble mailers are ready, they need to pay for us the full amount USD942. After we check the money, then we send the mailers to their request address. When the mailers are ready, I tell them to pay for the money. After about 7 days later, they send me a bank slip to prove they have paid us the money. Then I send the mailers to Guangzhou. But such a pity, even we have the bank slip and wait for a week to check the money. The USD942, we still don’t see it. When I realize we can’t receive the money, I contact with Mandy at once. She helps me to send the email to her boss. Every two days, I will ask her the progress of the payment. But already one month passed, the money still don’t reach our bank account.
In the past one month, I have try to contacting with the boss of Mandy-Sam. Several emails have been sent to him(Sam@origin8rs.com) , but he doesn’t reply me at all. Send the SMS to him, still got no replies. I have no idea to solve it, so I telephone him. And he promised he will pay for us in tomorrow. Then I trust it and wait for the money. But several tomorrow had passed too. The money still don’t reach our bank account.
Well, Although Sam don’t refuse to pay for us the totally amount during these time. He still don’t pay for us the money for the past one month. I want to know when he will pay for us. We wait for the payment for more than 1 month. I want to know which payment need the supplier wait for so long . And USD942 is not a big amount, I don’t know why he doesn’t pay for it. Whether the USD942 can buy the trust of the supplier? Or his honesty just worth USD942?
At last, I only want to tell Sam: Pls to be a honest person! The most important point in the business is: honesty. And I really hope somebody can help me to telephone Sam and ask him to pay for us the money. His mobile number is: 714-931-2921, telephone number of the office is: 714-993-3088
In addition, I have the order and email can prove this matter. If someone need it, I can send them to you. My email address is: cassie@xcgs.com
Anyway, Hoping somebody can help me to solve this matter. I will wait for the reply of the Origin8rs Global Inc.

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Wating for the kind person's suggestion and replies. Thanks for the help!
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Wow. That is such a bad experience. Sorry to hear about that Cassie. Have you tried searching for the company review of Origin8ers Global inc? I'm sorry if I won't be able to call him on his number. I hope someone here can advice you a better suggestion on what to do. Good luck!

Also, take note not all Americans are like that.

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Old 03-16-2010, 01:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow. That is such a bad experience. Sorry to hear about that Cassie. Have you tried searching for the company review of Origin8ers Global inc? I'm sorry if I won't be able to call him on his number. I hope someone here can advice you a better suggestion on what to do. Good luck!

Also, take note not all Americans are like that.
Anyway, thanks for your reply!
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Yesterday, I had telephoned Sam again and he promised would pay for us right now. But one day passed, still don’t see any actions he takes. Will he lie again? Waiting for his reply.
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Old 03-19-2010, 02:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You can't tell if he will pay you or not. And it's hard to expect on things like this.
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I feel tired on this matter these time. And I don't want to wait his money any longer. His promise just be the promise .It never can come true. So I will pay for these money to my company. His patient always better than me. And I don't have any more time to wait. So I give up . Well,The post will be here for a long time. Hoping this bad experience can help more people when they do business.
Anyway, Good luck to all the kind person!
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Perhaps you can use PayPal?? That way, the money is transferred right away and for a small fee, you won't get cheated again. I don't know how the international regulations apply to PayPal, though.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi Cassie,
Yes, there are people who will cheat you out of your money - not only in America, but everywhere in the world. They are very small in numbers, and 99.99% of people are very honest. I have my own business, and I learned one thing - Time is very valuable. You have lost $942, but now you are spending a lot of time to get that money. If you spend an additional 10 hours trying to collect, now you have lost even more because you must put a value on your time. This is time that could be better used getting new, honest customers. It is very difficult to accept this theory, but I have found that it is best for my business. Good luck, -T

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Old 03-24-2010, 03:54 AM   #10 (permalink)
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i know origin8rs and i checked with them about this situation.
seems you asked the payment to a personal account instead of your business account and you asked that they should not mention anything in the reference not even what the payment was for. they got confused and worried whether the payment was going to your company or to a personal account - you should clarify with them so that they are assured the money is being paid for the goods to your company
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