what is deemed AVERAGE in terms of IQ?

[Chooco]

i only hate english because it is not a science.

math, chemistry, physics, biology all have a RIGHT ANSWER and a WRONG ANSWER. figuring out which is the right answer is the challenge and i like doing that but when i have to start "thinking" about english of what should i put. i can't put anything because they never tought us that concept, how am i supposed to just make blind guess at what i think the author was trying to say or not say?

English doesn't have a right answer so it is very hard to pass.

[vass0922]

That is the problem even I face... lack of imagination
Its not necessarily supposed to have a right answer, like philosophy... some things just dont have a right answer, however some people can comprehend this better than others... one author I do particularly enjoy and can be quite deep but there is actually a readable story above that is Edgar Allen Poe... great stories and uses a lot of imagery to set the tone of the stories. Not to mention typically not huge 3000 page books

One book I LOATHE is Ethan Frome ... ARGHHH we had to read that in 11th grade and we were forced to NIT PICK every @%Q##$%# detail in that book ... and it was SOOOO boring (IMO)...
Guess I just didn't have the IQ to understand it

[Chooco]

the best book i have ever read is Lord Of The Flies
it is so straight forward, there is no guess work involved at all.

[CujoRbd]

Yeah, that's one of the classics. I remember reading it in like 6th or 7th grade (just for the fun of it) and I recall it being one of the best books I had ever read. I still consider that to be so, but, as with time, I've added many more to the list.


(*yawn* Now it's time for bed. Good night all!)

[eweruk]

Check out your IQ here . I know there are others but this one was pretty good.

[Warthog]

haha, English is one of my strongest subject, that and History. I read a lot so I have wording down pretty good....if I took more time to write papers instead of rushing to get them done, I'm sure I'd get better grades.

Science......yawwwwwwwnnnnn, boring

Math....I don't do too bad...when I 'get it', it's awesome

The right answer/wrong answer mentality people typically do really well on tests because they are really good at memorizing. In high school, you don't necessarily have ot understand what you're doing, just memorize the correct way to do this or that or the correct answer and you'll be all set. English is different though

Warthog

[Warthog]

I tried the first few questions on that test.....then it got annoying and time consuming so I just clicked.....67

[caddmannq]

100 is the average, by definition.

I've only taken 2 tests in 48 years and I scored 141 in high school at 16. A couple years later, I took the MENSA test and scored 143, and I was seriously stoned at the time. (No, I haven't gotten stoned in many, many years. I'm too old for that $h!t.)

When I told my boss (an MSCE...no not MCSE, MSCE ) that I once scored 143, he said that he'd scored 140, and he figured I was closer to 160.

I dunno. I really don't put much faith in these things.

[MegalosSkylaki]

The Wechsler Scales, an enduruing achivement of American clinical psychiarty/psychology, have a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15.

Following the statistical properties of a normal duistribution --the perfect bell shaped familiar curve --one SD above the mean is the 67 percentile;two SD are the 86 or so % and three are the 98 %as I recall. Been a while.

The [Stanford]-Binet and Kaufman Scales also follow a normal distribution and similarly report a deviation IQ.

Alfred Binet had intended the intelligence test to assist the education of children and viewed it as an estimate of current--not permenant educational potential.

Instead, it was perverted into a tyranny where High IQ's are believed when they are consistent with the expections of the beholder --and dismissed when they are not.

There are many ways to show intelligence and Howard Gardner postulates Multiple Intelligences:the Theory in Practice"[1993] following the publication of Frames of Mind [1983] ,an outgrowth of his work at Harvard U. Project Zero on the Nature and Realization of Human Potential.

The classic theory of intelligence revolves around something vaguely called "G" [general intelligence] and the traditional battle has been between the stage theorists--who postulate human development in irreversible and predictable stages (more closely associated with European psychology q.v. Freud) and the optimistic American school of "training theorists" which argued for its malleability.

Yet they both argued around "G".

"Trying to change psychology's definition of what is intelligence is like trying to move gavestones in a graveyard" offerred a reviewer of "Frames.."

A true interactionist, however, Jean Piaget, called his theory genetic epistimology in the sense that it was developed early in life ("genetic") and reaching one stage of learning provided dilemmas which were resolved by another level of intellectual achievement ("epistomology"). Piaget came into disfavor in America as a "stage theory" by the "training" camp who tried to show the Piagetian stages could be "tought".

Today "G" is being balkanized in both academic and pop psychology as "E.I"--"emotional intelligence"--has entered into daytime talkshows.

Interestingly, Antonio D'tammasio, a neurologist who worked with frontal lobe damaged patients with affective ("emotional") problems agues in Descartes Error that affective disorders led to cognitive deficienceies --as if the abilty "to feel" was necessary to the ability to think.

From earliest chilhood, I never concerned myself much with IQ as much as what I called "RV"--ruthlessness of vision --the ability to see things and describe things--as they are.

DOOOG

[osprey4]

Originally posted by caddmannq
100 is the average, by definition.

All of us at TechIMO are above average.

John