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Old 04-20-2004, 04:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In the state of Missouri, here's the taxes we have to pay:

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer registration tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

100 years ago, not one of these taxes existed. Our nation was the most prosperous in the world, we had no/little national debt, the largest middle class in the world, and mothers stayed home to raise the kids. Look how far we've come. Or more correctly, look how far we've regressed.

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Old 04-20-2004, 04:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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lets see 100 years ago we didnt even have

Telephones, Traffic, Utilities, Vehicles, watercraft, hardly had any schools, recreationall vehicles, Truckers, septic systems, gasoline, and medicare, so thats why

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Old 04-20-2004, 04:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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At least he managed to toss a sexist remark in there.
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Old 04-20-2004, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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nova: yeah, we didnt have that stuff, but why should we have to pay taxes on them now? its like the government is penalizing us for living well.

raff: I pity your inability to understand history. Do women deserve a place in the work force? yes. At the expense of their childrens formative years? nope. studies prove the best situation for kids is a two parent household where the mother stays home.
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Wow! "Studies prove" that what's "best" for kids is a two parent household where the mother stays home?

No study has ever "proven" any such thing.

"Best" is highly subjective, and correctly labeling something as "the best" would require omniscience.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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studies prove the best situation for kids is a two parent household where the mother stays home.
Don't know what the studies say, but that's what my daughter has. I really don't relish the thought of someone else raising my kids If I did, I'd utilize that law that allows you to drop them off. I don't believe that both parents have to work full time to make ends meet. Get a cheaper house, drive a used car, heaven forbid, drop the cable and cell... I know there are some situations where it is necessary, but find them few and far between.
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JME--->Don't know what the studies say, but that's what my daughter has. I really don't relish the thought of someone else raising my kids If I did, I'd utilize that law that allows you to drop them off. I don't believe that both parents have to work full time to make ends meet. Get a cheaper house, drive a used car, heaven forbid, drop the cable and cell... I know there are some situations where it is necessary, but find them few and far between.

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I absolutely and totally agree....it will become very obvious in coming years that Americas greed and hunger for convenience and luxury is a terrible thing...we all think that we NEED cable tv and two suv's..we NEED 3 phone lines...every family member NEEDS a cell phone...we NEED to eat out at $100 for a family at LEAST once per week...we NEED a trip to the beach every year.

We think that just because we can somehow strain and work two jobs etc..with overtime..we think that as long as we pay the bills that we are ok...wrong...we are losing more than we know.

Time will show it for what it is...there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.

We are so dependent on foreign countries now...what will happen when the Eu and euro are destroying the dollar even more than today..and the arabs decide to court the EU instead of the USA? There are so many scenarios that could happen.

Of course the fact that we have had a couple generations raised by strangers is quite damaging.

Oh, yeah, and that little thing called the divorce rate.

Oh well, at least we all have cell phones and 3 cars.

oh and what..1 out of 3 Americans are obese now..including kids from 3rg grade and down?????

We are slaves to our conveniences and it will cost us dearly...already is costing us.

Oh, yeah...uh..say the social security system is going bust?? lol..and peeps crying about high medical costs etc...all the while they stuff down that supersize fry cuz mommy was too tired to cook again today cuz she had a ruff day at work??

There is an old saying---"you can pay me now or pay me later"

America has chosen the "take it all now..pay later" approach...and I do believe that payday is coming very soon.

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At least he managed to toss a sexist remark in there.
I assume you're reffering to "...and mothers stayed home to raise the kids."

Well, we did that - my wife stayed home for the first 7 or 8 yrs of our kids' lives. And I agree, it's sexist & totally unfair!
I wanted to do it!


But the cold hard fact is that I did - and still do - earn better than three times what my wife does, so that just wasn't possible!
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I agree tony.... we are definately OVERTAXED !!!!
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I'm a bit perplexed as to why having a mother stay home to raise children is considered sexist. That's the decision my wife and I made nearly 16 years ago. Sure we've passed up several hundred thousand dollars in income (my wife had a nice career), but the value of raising our children far exceeds any amount of money.
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