Ole Jesse Jackson

[Bovon]

Jesse Jackson Asked for Hostage Help
Sunday, April 18, 2004
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117438,00.html

JACKSON, Miss. — The Rev. Jesse Jackson will contact religious leaders in Iraq to seek the release of Thomas Hamill, the American civilian truck driver abducted in Iraq, Hamill's wife said Saturday.

We have stated that we will not negotiate with terrorists for their release.

America will not negotiate anywhere..anytime with terrorists is the policy.

My question then is...why does Jesse Jackson dismiss the mandate of the USA and will attempt to resolve this issue on his own?

Or...does he have another agenda!

[Gomer]

Did he not successfully negotiate the release of hostages in the past?

Maybe I am mistaken... but if I am not, if he is pushing an agenda he does not utilize is actions very well.

I'd have to say that is it works the ends certainly justify the means.

[Gomer]

As I said... if he "[has] another agenda" we are all missing it.

He has done this multiple times since the mid 80's and has been very successful.

http://www.blackvoices.com/feature/jesse_jackson/

1984
Jackson negotiated the release of Navel Lt. Robert O. Goodman Jr., after his jet bomber was shot down over an anti-aircraft location in Lebanon.

1984
Four dozen U.S. and Cuban prisoners are released when Jackson and Fidel Castro meet for talks, in Cuba.

1986
Jackson assist in the release of Rev. Lawrence Martin Jenco of Joliet, Illinois, held for nearly two years by the Islamic Jihad in Lebanon.

1988
Against opposition from the White House, Jackson works to free U.S. hostages in Lebanon.

1988
While running a heated Democratic primary for the presidency, Jackson corresponds with Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega asking him to step down.

1990
Jackson assist in the release of U.S. and foreign hostages in Iraq, held by Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein.

1999
Jackson, Rep Rod Blagojevich (D-Ill) and an interfaith religious delegation wins the release of three U.S. captives.

This month alone Jackson has negotiated the release of three United States prisoners of war in Kosovo and initiated the signing of a cease-fire in the bloody seven-year war in Sierra Leone. While neither event is Jackson's first effort on foreign soil, the Kosovo war was his first journey during active battle where his life was actually put to the test. However, Jackson, dressed down in navy blue suit and wing-tipped collar, said he was prepared for the worst.

"I had to come to grips with life and death before I left, because the (U.S.) government said it would not stop bombing," Jackson said." If I would have died, I would have died in peace."

Even though his life's mission is the social and economic empowerment of the African-American people, Jackson felt strongly that there needed to be an attempt to rescue the US POWs. Yugoslavian President Slobadon Milosevic initially wanted to release the white solider only, because he had a wife and child back home. Jackson convinced Milosevic otherwise.

" I said we need to negotiate for the Hispanics, too," Jackson said. Eventually all three US soldiers were released to his custody.May 2, when Jackson saw the freed men -- U.S. soldiers' Staff Sgt. Christopher J. Stone, Staff Sgt. Andrew A. Ramirez and Spec. Steven M. Gonzales -- he wept. "I cried uncontrollably. It was like I saw my own three boys," Jackson said. "It gave me a since of real joy."

Jackson, the founder of the Rainbow/Push Coalition, has been instrumental in releasing more captives than any government official to record. He attributes his success to the "Man Upstairs."

"We prayed that God would intervene. That was our secret weapon," Jackson proudly boasted. The reverend was accompanied by Rep. Rod Blagojevich (D-Ill.), the only Serbian American in Congress and a 21-member interfaith delegation, made-up of Greeks, Jews, Christians and Protestants. . James Meeks, a member of the delegation and Pastor of Salem Baptist Church, in Chicago said the democratic group could soon return to Kosovo on a fact-finding mission to evaluate the condition of the refugee camps."We want to make sure we analyze both sides" of this crisis, Meeks said.Information as to where and when the delegation would visit was not available because of security reasons.

This makes Jackson's fifth and sixth international diplomatic intervention. He first traveled to Syria in 1984 and secured the release of a navel officer, whose jet was shot down in Lebanon. He has been instrumental in the release of over 60 prisoners."He (Jackson) has proved that an "African-American man can operate on the world stage. They'd rather reduce him to local marches and rallies," Meeks said.

President Ahmed Tejan Kabbah and Corporal Foday Saybana Sankoh, signed the Sierra Leone cease-fire treaty May 18.

[Bovon]

Originally posted by Gomer
I'd have to say that is it works the ends certainly justify the means.

Does the end that justifies the means..include treason?

Now, don't get me wrong..or use my statements out of context.. I am certainly not accusing Jackson of treason..but there have been times when he came close.

I will wait for a few more replies before I make my own thoughts known.

[John Prophet]

didnt he offer to go negotiate with saddam before the war started?? Which of course the pentagon politely turned down, lol.

The question is...who is he to be speaking for the USA??

What office is he in??

What authority is he carrying??

JP

[Gomer]

What authority is he carrying??

EXACTLY!!!!
He can offer them nothing and they know this. He is simply a voice of reason.

[Mike]

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[Bovon]

Ok, seems like nobody else is interested, so here is what I had on my mind.

I really don't care for Jesse Jackson, but it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. The guy just blows my mind sometimes.

The reason I mentioned he might have an agenda was based on how well any of his efforts are publicized well before he attempts to make one of his moves. To me, this would allude to him needing notoriety. He does all of his "deeds" like a politician running for an office tooting his own horn, so to speak..but to my knowledge, he is not working towards a political office..unless that is the one thing he has chosen to keep quiet

Others (some) that have negotiated with captors in the past have done it very quietly, and many times the general public did not find out until it was all over.

Following are some general ways the word traitor can be applied. I 'think' I can see a few that Ole Jesse has played around the edges of. (This can also be applied to lots of others as well).


trea·son (trΆ“z…n) n. 1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies. 2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.


1. (n.) A secret agreement or plan to attain a wrongful end:
• conspiracy
• cabal
• intrigue
• machination
• plot
• scheme
• collusion
• connivance
• treachery
• sedition
2. (n.) Violation of allegiance to one's country:
• betrayal
• disloyalty
• sedition
• traitorousness
• treachery
• loyality (antonym)
• patriotism (antonym)
an·to·nym (²n“t…-nΉm”) n. Abbr. ant.
A word having a meaning opposite to that of another word.

3. (n.) An act or instance of betrayal:
• perfidy
• Judas kiss
• breach of faith
• disloyalty
• double-cross
• duplicity
• faithlessness
• falseness
• infidelity
• stab in the back
• traitorousness
• treachery
• unfaithfulness
• foul play
• fidelity (antonym)
• faithfulness (antonym)
4. (n.) Willful betrayal of fidelity or confidence:
• treachery
• disloyalty
• faithlessness
• perfidiousness
• perfidy
• traitorousness
• treacherousness
• untrustworthiness
• falseness
• deceit
• deceitfulness
• deception
• infidelity
• fidelity (antonym)
• trustworthiness (antonym)
• faithfulness (antonym)

[Cyclone2]

While it keeps Jesse Jackson in the spotlight as a humanitarian [did I mention it keeps Jesse Jackson in the spotlight?]
I dont believe he is trying to be treasonist though. All he can offer them is more headlines and a forum to the world to get their message out. IMO

[ShawnD1]

If a peaceful solution can be made, that's great.
Jesse's negotiations are not encouraging future terrorism; therefore, I don't see any problems with what he's doing.