The future and destiny of Israel--tomorrow's news today

[John Prophet]

I was asked in another thread to explain what I was referring to when I said the future of Israel was already laid out and foretold.

the super brief quicky version

Quick preface--->the bible talks over and over again about God setting up a kingdom on Earth...in a period people call "the millennium"......and much to the confusion of Christians (and jews), for the last 1900ish years all of these prophecies of the bible were basically looked upon as IMPOSSIBLE......

WHY???

because Israel wasnt even a nation!!! And ALL the prophecies SPECIFICIALLY said that the kingdom of God was going to be centered IN JERUSALEM!!! THAT HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE...until 1948!! What has been foretold for thousands of years now, and has been impossible..is no longer impossible..it is that much closer to reality. So, with that historical point being told......here is a bare bones sketch of things to come in Israel...of course there are many things coming in the world besides these things...but these are the main things to consider...Jerusalem is like the laser point of focus for coming world events


1) a "7 year" peace treaty will be signed

2) The temple WILL be rebuilt and some form of animal sacrifice as per Judaism WILL resume!! (again, this seems IMPOSSIBLE doesnt it...but we ALL will SEE IT...mark it down...bookmark the thread etc,lol)

3) The world will think we have peace in the middle east at last!!

4) One of the men who signs this treaty will renig about midway thru the 7 years

5) He will cause the sacrifices to be stopped...He will STAND N THE TEMPLE CLAIMING that he is God...that he is to be worshipped. (the Pope will be his "right hand man"..I am guessing it will be the next pope..so watch for massive changes when the new pope comes in)

6) A persecution against Jews will break out that will make the holocaust look like a family squabble....2/3rds of Jews WORLDWIDE will die....it wont be confined to Europe as the holocaust was

7) Armegeddon----All nations will decide to come against Israel and destroy her (yes, the UN/EU will be involved AGAINST Israel unless some other world entity emerges..such as a possible renewed soviet conglomerate...in any case the vast majority of Europe will come against Israel in war....I do not know for sure the status of America in that time period cuz its not clear..but we see America somewhat lining up "against" the EU..or at least trying to keep her own independence..so hopefully the USA wont be involved against Israel)

8) When all appears lost..at the last instance, when all hope is lost...Jesus HIMSELF will come to do battle and destroy the armies surrounding Jerusalem. The people will gather the weapons etc and they will use them for firewood etc for SEVEN YEARS!! (someone can help me with the name/method of the modern weapons made with wood composite material which is flammable..or is it wood at all, I cant remember....but it is flammable material that weapons are now made of)

9) The Kindgom of God will be setup ON EARTH based in Jerusalem.

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That is just the skeleton of things to happen. There are other things that will happen before these things...such as a war involving an army of 200 million (china??) that will kill 1/3 of mankind...yes, 2 billion (I am assuming nukes would be seriously involved...which china among others have brashly and boldly said they wont hesitate to use)

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Anyway, I hope you all will think a little about these things....because the things we see in the news everyday are like steps on the ladder to the things I spoke of. Things HAVE to get bad enough in the middle east to make the world and the world govts get involved and come up with this "peace treaty"

So these things being discussed...assasinations/bombings etc..they are just small precursors..like birthpangs.

basically somewhere along points 5 and 6....if you are not a Christian it will be too late to realize what is going on because a strong delusion will be on the people..they will be "under the spell" of this world leader who demands to be worshipped as a God. (Hitler was a foretaste--notice how he had the finely cultured nation of Germany under his spell....what nation today is remotely as cultured as Germany of the late 30's?? answer..NONE. The world today is a sitting duck ready for the leader..they will follow him without question..even in America we are conditioned for hero worship...even silliness like "american idol" and sich dribble has prepared people to worship and follow mere men..as opposed to worshipping God)

So you guys who are watching these situations in Isreal..when you see this massive war with nukes....and when you see steps 1 and 2...dont say you werent told AHEAD OF TIME...and if you were told about 1 and 2...then dont dream or pretend that 4-8 wont come.

And when steps 7-9 happen..what do you think will be the fate of those who oppose God? those who hate Him? those who kill Christians??

Which side do you want to be on??


JP

[OuTpaTienT]

So let me see if I got this straight. Your God is going to damn me to Hell simply for the fact that I'm a non-believer. He's going to put his ego above my eternal fate? He doesn't sound like a very appealing character. He's going to punish me for the blissful act of being ignorant of his presence? And send me to burn in the lakes of fire with the likes of murders, rapists, and child molesters.....no wait, He even will let murders, rapists, and child molesters into Heaven if they just ask for forgiveness right? Funny stuff. Amusing if nothing else. Even if there were a God, if he's anything like your description of him JP, then I want nothing to do with Him. And I definitely wouldn't want to spend all eternity with him. Sounds like a kind of hell to me.

There is no God as you speak of him JP. I know you don't believe me, but that's ok. The truth will one day be yours. But until that day, people like you certainly make for interesting conversation...and I guess that's not a horrible thing, certainly nothing I would damn someone to Hell over.

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• "Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence." - unknown
  
• "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms." - Albert Einstein
  
• "You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
  
• "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." -Dave Barry
  
• "If God didn't exist, it would be neccesary to invent him." - Voltaire
  
• "There is no god greater than truth." - Mahatma Gandhi
  
• "The truths of religion are never so well understood as by those who have lost the power of reasoning." - Voltaire
  
• "Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who teaches my hands to wage war, and my fingers to do battle." - The Bible, Psalms 144:1

[elmers]

Sooo basicly every other religion except yours is wrong. The muslims, hindus ... all these other ppl are wrong and the christians of your choosing are correct?

Makes for an interesting read tho. I guess we wont know if your right untill no2? Do you have a time table for such events?

[John Prophet]

Outpatient---> "He's going to punish me for the blissful act of being ignorant of his presence?"

nope..cuz your not ignorant...not only have you heard of God, but you know people who follow God...so you have no claim on ignorance..yours is a willing disobedience.

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Outpatient-----> "And I definitely wouldn't want to spend all eternity with him."

I dont think you have much to worry about there.

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Elmers---> Sooo basicly every other religion except yours is wrong. The muslims, hindus ... all these other ppl are wrong and the christians of your choosing are correct?

None of it is by MY choice is it?? Am I God? Am I in heaven? Did I write the bible? All I am doing is relaying what God has said to whoever chooses to listen. It's all about choice...see, you all didnt know God was pro-choice did you? But He is...everyone can choose what they want to believe..who they want to follow...they can follow Ghandi or TJ over God if they want..that is their choice.

Anyway, I was asked to expound on the events I alluded to...I have done so.

There will be many more cataclysmic events....but even with these events the majority of people will still blaspheme God...only at the culmination of the outpouring of Gods wrath will the people left on earth finally give glory to God....of course by then there aint that many people left...most die while still blaspheming and hating God.

You can read the story of Moses and pharoah and all the plagues sent upon Egypt in those days...yet Pharoah's heart stayed hard and he wouldnt give glory to God....pretty much a foreshadowing of events to come.


So you can take it or leave it...but dont try to say no one told you.



JP


Oh, timetable.

Well once the treaty is signed there is a 7 year clock started at that point. Evidently the first 3.5 years will seem to be peace at last...then near the end of that first 3.5 years the leader will renig and make the Jews to stop sacrificing to their God...the leader will stand in the temple and declare himself as God and he will demand to be worshipped....his right hand man will be there performing signs and wonders in the plain sight of people...things such as pulling fire from thin air etc....by this time if you are an unbeliever you will most likely remain so...because the strong delusion will be let loose on poeple and they will follow after the leader and his right hand man (can u say, "the Pope")with the "miracles" etc.

But sometime BEFORE the end of the end of the first 3.5 years will be this massive war that kills the 1/3 of mankind. Staggering to think of I know. I am not sure if it is possible that the war would be BEFORE the signing of the treaty or after it..but it will be before the end of the first 3.5 years.

Seems as if the treaty will be signed...and THEN the massive war which triggers the leader to assume control of the world, lol...he will more or less say that religion, differing political structures and economic imbalances are the root of every war and struggle...so his solution will be to eliminate different religions and political structures etc..hence he claims himself to be god and that he alone should be worshipped. (see--->ceaser). Of course you have all heard of the "mark of the beast"....it is AFTER the war etc that he commands everyone to take the "mark" or else they will not be able to buy or sell. That is why people are following the overwhelming flood of RFID technology...because it seems as if RFID will be involved...coincidentally the 2 places on the human body which are thin enough to implant one of the new tiny chips so that they can be scanned are...the forehead and they back of the hand...the exact two places the bible foretells that the people will have to take the mark.

Seems obvious that the leader will have to be the headman of the EU or UN...or else a hugely powerful man in Europe. I see the EU getting ready to get their constitution inplace soon...hmm, so they will be electing a pres soon huh?? hmmm.


So the timeline question is hard to say exactly until the treaty is signed..and of course there have been treaties before...but none that involved the rebuilding of the temple.

Seems as if that is only a few years away at the most. Look at it like a womans pregnancy..it starts off fairly subdued...no big rush...even SHE might not know it for the first month..then it gets noticeable...then finally it totally takes over and becomes the #1 issue.

you see the middle east boiling now dont you?? How much hotter will it get until the world community and leaders step in with the peace treaty at last??

I see it boiling now so seems like it couldnt be many years away.



For the massive war I suppose one would need to look at china/taiwan N/S Korea...India/Pakistan....one would look at those places...and those countries with nukes...several of which could be at war in short notice...its all like a powder keg...waiting for the spark. 2 billion people killed would have to be some seriously packed epicenters...hit with nukes. There are several places that fit the bill...and it will involve nukes probably..and there are only a few countries with enough of those to cause that much damage.

China sort of comes to the forefront because she has boasted an army of 200 million already...the EXACT same number written so long ago in the bible..written before it was even possible. What a coincidence...Chinese officials have already said to US officials things like "we dont really think you will trade LA for Bejing"...and also that war would start immediately if Taiwan tries to secede from mainland China. Weigh in the fact that Bush openly stated when asked what he would do to help Taiwan...and he said "whatever it takes".

The pieces are all coming together.

JP

[OuTpaTienT]

Originally posted by John Prophet

I dont think you have much to worry about there.

Perfectly willing to let me burn huh? Some "Christian" you turn out to be. You just may find yourself down there with me. ...crap...I need to rethink this.

[John Prophet]

lol, I am not willing to let anyone burn....I can lead you to water but your mind seems made up that you wont drink.

btw...nice avatar and title.

Satan spawn huh...lol.

[elmers]

What jp said ^^^^^

[OuTpaTienT]

Originally posted by elmers
What jp said ^^^^^

LOL. That's the first time I've ever seen anybody say that.

[elmers]

Well thats what I wanted to write, he beat me to it.