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Old 04-18-2004, 04:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Coalition of the [ever less and less] Willing:

Brits Won't Stay If Shia Leaders Ask Them To Go
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The warnings came as the commander of British troops in southern Iraq, Brig. Nick Carter, admitted that he would be powerless to prevent the overthrow of Coalition forces if the Shia majority in Basra rose up in rebellion. Brig. Carter, of the 20 Armoured Brigade, who has been in Iraq for four months, said British forces would stay in Basra with the consent of local Shia leaders, or not at all.
Spain, as expected, will order its troops home.


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Old 04-18-2004, 04:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Spain, as expected, will order its troops home."

Wow, this really is something. After all the bombings in spain last month... This is scary, I mean this means that terrorism worked.
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey if we didn't fool around so much in the mideast we wouldn't have to worry about terrorism either.
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Who's next to pull out? France?
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Old 04-18-2004, 11:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"Spain, as expected, will order its troops home."

Wow, this really is something. After all the bombings in spain last month... This is scary, I mean this means that terrorism worked.
If you followed Spanish politics at all, you would know that it wasn't because of terrorism that Spain has chosen to remove their troops. The party that is now in power campaigned on a promise to remove their troops from Spain if they came to power. If anything, they're only keeping their promise to the electorate.
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Old 04-18-2004, 11:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Who's next to pull out? France?
just reminded me of what i saw on letterman the other night

"osama bin laden has proposed a peace agreement. of course all european countries did not accept on his terms. well all but one. it seems that france has surrendered"


i say we all pull out of the mid east, make sure that they dont nuke us, let them kill each other, then make some extra parking lots in the mid east....

although i was thinking: if we nuked the mid east, would all the sand near the bomb turn to glass due to the high heat and pressure? forget glass blowing, im going glass bombing
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Osama bin laden is actually french.
Yeh, i dunno who here has watched the QUALITY series beebo cos you damn should.

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Old 04-19-2004, 08:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"The party that is now in power campaigned on a promise to remove their troops from Spain if they came to power. If anything, they're only keeping their promise to the electorate."

Thats swell, tho I still think its wrong. If a country commits to something then they should stick with it. It SEEMS like theyre pulling out because of the terrorist attacks. This could mean a world of trouble for those staying.
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"The party that is now in power campaigned on a promise to remove their troops from Spain if they came to power. If anything, they're only keeping their promise to the electorate."

Thats swell, tho I still think its wrong. If a country commits to something then they should stick with it. It SEEMS like theyre pulling out because of the terrorist attacks. This could mean a world of trouble for those staying.
It only seems that they're pulling out because of the timing of the terrorist attacks. If you look below the optics of the situation you will realize that it has been the position of the new government all along. I think it's fallacious to believe that once a nation commits to something they must stick through it all the way. In a democracy, things can change. The ruling party can change, the desires of the populace can change and the direction of the government can change. Face it, that's one aspect of democracy and can be both a benefit and a drawback, depending upon your position.
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Old 04-19-2004, 11:16 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Willy_ph,

I have 0 problem with them pulling out. The timing of it is poor. If this is just a government bending to the will of the people that is fine. However the attacks on the civillian trains change the situation. Were it possible I would avoid moving out for as long as possible so as to not give the impression that you were caving to the terrorism.

Caving to the terrorism will simply invite future terrorism AFAIAC
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