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04-16-2004, 03:11 AM
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Donald Trump to Bush: "You're fired!"
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04-16-2004, 05:41 AM
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No doubt who I'd fire:
in 2003 Sen. John Kerry missed 292
votes, or 64 percent of the votes in the Senate. This year
he has missed ALL of the first 22 Senate votes... until
he rushed back to Washington at the behest of the gun
control crowd to cast votes for a series of anti-Second
Amendment measures.
In fact, according to the Boston Herald (3/1/04), "Kerry
has been a virtual no-show in the U.S. Senate over the past
14 months, but he hasn't missed a paycheck," even though
"federal law says some of his $158,000 salary should have
been withheld."
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04-16-2004, 08:22 AM
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04-16-2004, 08:45 AM
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I don't know what Kerry's attendence record has to do with Trump firing Bush but since the issue is raised, when I watch C-SPAN, the speaker is often talking to empty seats. How many of the roll calls votes that Kerry missed would have altered the outcome of the vote? Most Senate votes are overwhelming one side or the other and one vote makes no difference.
This issue is pretty much a non-issue. The question is, 'does he adequately represent the people of Mass?' Since he's been re-elected for the past 30 years, the answer must be 'yes.'
While we are on the subject, how many days has Bush been on vacation?
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04-16-2004, 08:53 AM
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how many days has Bush been on vacation?
| I'm sure anyone with a highschool education understands a presidential vacation is for the most part purely locational, daily briefs are still given, work is still done, in fact many of these 'vacations' were oppertunities to meet with foriegn officials someplace other than the Whitehouse.
How many times have you heard, "when the President was reached on his ranch in Crawford" or "when asked for comment while 'vacationing' at Camp David"?
Doesnt sound like much of a vacation to me?
It's seems to me in a nutshell your compairing someone working at home and calling it a vacation to someone totaly not working because as far as I know, Senate votes need to be held in DC with voters present. I dont recall at any time votes being cast from the cabin of the Skaramoosh?
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04-16-2004, 09:10 AM
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That is exactly the answer I wanted to get.
Most of a Senator's work is not listening to debates and voting. That is not the real world. Most of what a Senator does is meet with people and discuss matters with their staff.
Regardless where Kerry was, he was in constant contact with his staff by mobile phone. He flew back to Washington to participate in tight votes. It is a waste of a Senator's time to participate in unanimous votes. If that wasn't the case, a Senator could never run for higher office because he couldn't leave Washington.
Thus, we understand the spin this picture is trying to paint. It is a distorted one, nevertheless.
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04-16-2004, 09:24 AM
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Some of you really can really suck every last ounce of fun or satire-based amusement of any kind out of any thread, can't you? |
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04-16-2004, 09:58 AM
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New York is going to go Democratic. Always has, always will.
So basically, I really don't care what Trump thinks.
Why doesn't he try to patent the phrase "Up Yours!"
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| Quote: Originally posted by MTAtech It is a waste of a Senator's time to participate in unanimous votes. If that wasn't the case, a Senator could never run for higher office because he couldn't leave Washington.
Thus, we understand the spin this picture is trying to paint. It is a distorted one, nevertheless. | Sad that people now think that Senators (republican or democrat) NOT doing their elected JOB is okay. -- and it's "normal"
IMHO it is a dereliction of duty for them to NOT vote .... regardless of the "tightness" of the vote. He was ELECTED to do so.
Saying that he couldn't run for higher office because of that, is comparible to me not going to my job everyday because I'm looking for a better one, yet still getting paid.
Your telling me that's right and fair ?
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04-16-2004, 12:12 PM
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So jmebonner and crouse – what are you saying exactly, that Kerry has been neglecting his office/job because he has been campaigning and thus away from his post in Washington? I will admit you do have a good point there.
But, does that mean that when Bush really starts to hit the campaign trail that he is neglecting his duties too? It would seem to me that your description of neglect would most defiantly apply here as well. And how about all those campaign/party fundraisers that Bush has attended over the past few years while flying Air Force One to get to them at taxpayers expense? It seems to me that that would qualify as neglect and abuse of office. Hmmm, I think you are on to something.
No matter how many time you flip a quarter, heads or tails, it is still only worth 25 cents, meaning: anything negative or positive that anyone may apply to a situation or person, it can equally be applied to another. What’s good for the goose is just as good for the gander.
In reference to Air Force One and presidential use, that has been a hotbed issue for may years for every administration and I am not necessarily picking on Bush for doing so but if you are going to make accusations you should understand that such accusations could apply to everyone at any given time.
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