Pat Bucannon's take in Iraq...

[Chuckiechan]

The man sees pretty clearly...

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37884

[MTAtech]

If you watch the McLaughlin Group, you will know that Buchanan actually was against the war. What he’s saying in this column is, do we have the ruthlessness to impose a democracy in Iraq? Those ideas are in contradiction.

This is Buchanon on the show:
MR. BUCHANAN: The nation is angry because it was told it was "Mission accomplished," on the Abraham Lincoln. And the nation is angry because every state is in deficit, and we find out we're going to be rebuilding Iraq at the same they're raising taxes and cutting services.

[Pexster]

True conservatives like Buchanon and John McCain can't stand Bush -- he's giving the label a bad name. (I pretty much quit on the McLaughlin Group when Jack Germond left. He was the best part of the show!)

You don't need to watch McLaughlin to know his feelings about the war. Mr Buchanan is a conservative yes, but as he states he is not a Neocon. I heard him interviewed on a Neocon's radio show a couple weeks ago. I agree with his opinion of the middle east and why we have and will have the problems we have/had with the Arab peoples.
I'd like to see transcripts of the raising taxes part....
Cutting services? Good idea.

[Chuckiechan]

I have some issues with Bucannon. First, I don't think that many people are that worried about Iraq. News and political junkies, maybe.

Another problem is that we have boxed ourselves in a politically correct corner. We can't treat them like they treat each other. I am wondering if they will actually light the Japanese hostages on fire. Probably.

They are tough men used to being handled by tougher men. We don't have the legal means, let alone the stomach do handle this the way their own leaders would. How would they handle it? Probably by killing each and every one of them.

Japan needs to tell the terrorists: If you kill our people you hold as hostages, we are going to borrow US B-52's and carpet bomb you. If they kill them as promised, that is exactly what they should do, and we should stand aside and say, "Oh, the horror!"

Chuckiechan, I think we should all be very worried about Iraq, this maybe the beginning of a long WWIII. That said, I think it's horrible the division of this country and the politicians that are sabotaging our efforts to get the job done. That will be the biggest problem and may cause this war to linger and perhaps become WWIII our own people or more precisely fighting politicians. They are showing weakness to the enemy, they are behaving foolishly. We as Americans have trouble understanding their motives, no telling how a foreign group will interpret them.
War is not polite nor is it something to wring ones hands over.

[Chuckiechan]

The problem is that the Democrats are treating this as a game with the prize being control of the White House. They really don't care about the effect their words and accusations are having at home and abroad.

You can be sure our enemies are rallying the troops with cry's of "hold on just a little bit longer!" "Bush is going to lose" "Don't give up now! The American's want to run away!"

Politics used to stop at the waters edge, but no more. Winning elections is more important than what's in the national interest.

[TOAD6147]

Politics used to stop at the waters edge, but no more.

Chuckie,
{Edited at the request of a dear friend whom I love so much. } This is why we(Bush oppositionists) continually beat our chests about the way Bush went into Iraq and how he used a common enemy to justify it to his believers. We tried to promote caution and the inclusion of the global community through the UN but we were ridiculed for being unpatriotic. Now that it's falling apart you ask us what we would do and at the same time blaming Democrats for the fiasco going on over there. Get real!
BTW, just so you're up-to-date: There are numerous millions of people that aren't Democrats that oppose Bush and his policies. I'm just one of them.

{comment deleted -- I'm being charmed by my favorite Liberal !}

This did not start with President Bush, it didn't start with his father or even LBJ. I'm not real up to what happened when but I'm guessing this started maybe a some years before we inserted The Shaw. He was what they thought at that time the bow on the package.

I see promoting caution with the UN as ridiculous. What does the UN care about us?

Actually I'm stopping here... Explain to me please..............

What does the UN care about us? They don't give a RATS Foot about us.

[Chuckiechan]

Toad, you have made my point for me. You are anti-Bush and that is justification enough to turn your back on countrys decision because it wasn't make by someone who you agree with.

Basically, you want what Democrats want. You want the UN to somehow conjure up the will and muscle to do something so you (as a US citizen) don't. Since when has the UN represented US interests? What makes you think they would have done anything?

If they said no, is that the end of it as far as you are concerned?

BTW: I disagree that it is "falling apart". Just what makes anyone think that these people who where on top of the power structure, and just going to roll over and let someone else take over. They are used to killing with impunity to enforce their will. What makes you think they would suddenly become model citizens?

BTW: How is the UN doing on getting the Japanese hostages freed? Got marshmello's?