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04-02-2004, 02:49 AM
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9/11 to Now: "Dancing in the Streets"
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori."--
Wilfred Owen
1918
"No poor dumb bastard ever won a war by dieing for his Country. He won the war by making the poor dumb bastard die for his."--Gen. Geo. Patton, in Patton
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The reports of masses in celebratory dancing in the streets of Bagdad --the "Sunni triangle"-- after the killing by immoluation of four American contractors only serves to remind me of the dancing in the streets of Middle East following the grisly events of 9/11.
Ah ! The media ! How they downplayed the Dancing...would this be "inflammmatory ? seem "prejudiced"? ...turn people's stomachs?
Now we have charcoaled bodies rendered and hung from a bridge --to the jubilation of a crowd.
Again, "too grisley".."would offend people"..too truthful?
Yes, and I do remember how once the Press was not so finicky in showing a suspected VC shot in head during Vietnam, or other atrocities.
Wait ! Now let me get this right. Some atrocicities are OK to show, while others are not ? Errr...Iraquis or Palastinians dancing over the dead bodies of Americans "too grisley" ?
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How valuable the truth is, though !
Does anybody really believe anything but a Gangster State will be left behind in Iraq when we leave ?
Why not do what we should have done in Vietnam:
Minimalize the Defense parameter: reduce protected land to the minimum that is defensible;
Establish a salient: Take over the oil fields;
Execute a strategic withdrawal:Pump out all the oil to pay for ridding the World of Saddam.
And let the News Media show by all means all atrocities. No matter which side commits them. Even if public opinion doesn't want to see it. If an American soldier had shot a civilian, wouldn't the tapes would be all over TV. In the name of impatial journalism.
Have Americans really come to the point where people dancing in the streets over the charred bodies of their Countrymen will cause them to run , rather than convincing them to carry home the fight ?
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Another WWI poem: "They are worth your tears,
You are not worth their merriment"
-- Sigfreid Sasson (?)
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04-02-2004, 04:06 AM
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Well I think you're a bit over zealous with your use of descriptive words such as "masses"and "crowd". I've seen the footage edited for a Dutch TV news report, it's more like a handfull, a small group perhaps.
Eye witness reports tell of most of the Iraqis' going to thier homes and locking the door. This scene has played out in the US many times in our past, fear and self preservation prohibited anyone from "stepping in" I'm sure.
When you see the footage, even as it has been cut for viewing to show 'the masses' it is easy to tell there really isnt many involved. A small portion of what Coalition Forces have deemed the worst section of Iraq are dead set against us, that is obvious.
This was no Somalia revisited, many would like you to believe that but it is in no way the same.
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04-02-2004, 08:34 AM
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I would say the extreme barbarism is in response to the hope that like in Somalia, we will cut and run.
I believe the movie is shown widely in the middle east.
I believe we will fence of Fallugia, and let the Iraqi forces in for "informative discussions" to find those involved. We will use Iraqi's because they are accustomed to being abused by thier own people and it is against our rules to "talk" to them that way.
We are too (legally) squeamish to really accomplish much in that country other than to keep security while democracy is still trying to take hold.
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04-02-2004, 08:48 AM
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I hereby nominate all those participants who posed and mugged for the news cameras for the next Darwin awards!
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04-02-2004, 08:50 AM
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Disgusting acts of sub-humans. We have video of a lot of them. Time to knock on doors and say, yep thats you. Baaaaammm. |
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04-02-2004, 08:59 PM
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"Have Americans really come to the point where people dancing in the streets over the charred bodies of their Countrymen will cause them to run , rather than convincing them to carry home the fight ?"
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we're not going anywhere. usa is gonna have a base in afghanistan and iraq for the next half century at least, just like we do in japan,
germany, korea, cuba, etc. its simply in our stategic interest in a critical and unstable part of the world.
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04-02-2004, 09:07 PM
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Fallugia was largely exempt from the fighting and probably dosen't feel "beaten".
That will change, unfortunately for them. The last hot spot was Tikrit, I think. The marines and Iraqi police spent a few days on the lecture circuit, and the Tikriti's are all singing Cum-By-Ya now, for the most part.
I would take all of the video's and use them to find each one of the participants and charge them with complicity until we get the prep's, and hang them from the same bridge after their trial.
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04-02-2004, 09:50 PM
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for those who want some extra reading.....revelation 11.8-10 shows a very similar picture...which is getting clearer and nearer seemingly.
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04-03-2004, 01:36 PM
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| http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...eenterfallouja
I'm embarrassed to say i didn't bring my Bible with me, but I am inclined to view this less as a religious matter , but something to be settled between men.
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04-03-2004, 01:56 PM
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I don't think it is a religious matter anymore than Al Capone was an Italian.
These people have been inspired by people who's authority they respect to go out an commit mayhem. They have been given permission by some mullah or other creep that says it's ok. If they are going to follow these orders, then Allah better order another load of virgins, because things are going to get real busy up there real soon!
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