Your solution to the outsourcing problem

[willy_ph]

What steps do you think government's should take to halt the trend of job outsourcing?

Just looking for suggestions.

[Cyclone2]

This may help Today anyway

[MTAtech]

We should start by not encouraging companies to leave by giving tax incentives.

[pickel]

Maybe we should have these companies just move period, don't buy their products and replace them with companies that produce and sell their goods here in the USA.

[Atomic Rooster]

Is MTAtech advocating corporate welfare?

[originel]

Personally i think it will curb over time anyways. I went to a conference today hosted by IEEE in which a higher up from Bell south and TI(among others) was there and they commented on outsourcing. there main points were a)it doesn't affect the higher up engineers (good for me but not really related to anyone else) and b) that some companies are already starting to see the problems with it monetarily.

When working with a customer it is almost always necessary that the project management be geographically close to their customers which is almost always in the US, so what ends up happening is the management (and i mean project management by engineers, not corporate executives) is in the US and they work with teams oversees. obviously there are many problems with this that add escalating costs, such as simple conferencing and even just finding the time to work with the team, and so some companies are starting to rethink outsourcing and insourcing is already starting to happen to a very small degree.

agreed with the idea of tax incentives for not, or taxation for, outsourcing to encourage businesses to stay in the US though because not every business will really examine the situation anyways.

[Chuckiechan]

We could lower the cost of doing business here at home. One thing that comes to mind is cutting back on lawsuits. That translates to an extra insurance burden added into the cost of every product.

Also we need to lower workmen's comp.

Here in California, a glazing contractor must pay $44 per $100 wages. So to pay an employee $ 100 in wages, it breaks down as follows:

$100 wage
+ 44 worker's comp
+ 7.50 SSI (employer's share)
+ benies (if offered)

As you can see, the highest expense to the employer here is workman's comp. It could be eliminated in place of medical insurance if it wern't for the lawyers, doctors, and chiropractors.

[CERuppel]

My personal view on the out sourcing / of shore thingy:

Corps and such that are incorporated off shore, or who use off shore sources should be subject to foreign trade taxes. (Note: I am in favor of limiting trade in goods produced locally. Whats wrong with a little diversity in the world?)

I am also in favor of incentives to corps that do use resources from home. Lets for once try helping our selves, rather than the third world. Whats wrong with feeding and sheltering (and employing) the poor of this nation? And why is it somehow noble to feed and shelter the poor of _____?

No, I do not have specific answers to this general issue. But I do have opinions as to what NOT to do;

Do NOT give tax breaks to corps for moving outsourced jobs back to home. They terminated experienced (high cost) staff last year when they outsourced and are now going to replace that staff with a temp agency (or similar). Let that savings be all they get by bringing those jobs home.

Do NOT continue this practice of allowing cororations to continue to shield earnings from taxes (off shore). See my point about tax breaks for home corps. This is just the other shoe of the pair.

Do NOT keep giving these executives special privledges. Enron execs committed frauds on a huge scale, with a paper trail and eye witnesses. Not one of them is in jail, much less having to repay the stolen money. Can you say the same about joe schmo the corner con man?

(Not going on, getting to worked up).

Thanx for reading and letting me vent

[originel]

some very very good stuff there CE. to add to the enron thing...i remember hearing a statistic once that all of the losses/damages from low-end theft (burglary, muggings, etc) are only 1/4 that of the losses/damages from corporate theft (like enron).

[Epidemic]

Originally posted by MTAtech
We should start by not encouraging companies to leave by giving tax incentives.

Like what republicans propose.

OMG giving to the rich.... thought you hated that.