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Old 03-31-2004, 08:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Outdoors He's disappointed ??????

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/


What about the rest of us ????? Just another nail in the coffin !!

This man has single handedly caused more grief for more people than anyone in the history of this country. And we'll probably be stuck with him for another four years. Make sure your tires are inflated to the correct presuure and your cruise control works.

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Old 03-31-2004, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bush has no control over OPEC. Nor did Clinton. It's an Arab thing...

It would be nice if Iraq could start pumping more oil, and we could drill in Alaska, or off shore in southern Californai, or elsewhere in the lower 48. But, we are just too "pristine" to drill for our own oil.

Or we could jack the college tuition up of their exchange students to, say 1 million barrels per semester.

There is hope:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...dc_5&printer=1

Nuclear power may be on it's way back.

EDIT: Btw, many OPEC members cheat and make up the slack. Also, Saudi is slowly running out of oil. There are few new finds, and the cost of production is going up. Iraq is the next major world player in oil.

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So what's your solution pickel? Should we "pressure" OPEC into producing more oil as Kerry suggests? What if after said "pressuring", OPEC doesn't increase production? What do we do then, threaten them with sanctions, or get an U.N. resolution to invade them and take over production?
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Buy a bike, or better yet, walk. America needs to shed the fat.
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Get hybrid cars, and stop using the 20ltr (5,5gallon?)/100km suvs
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So what's your solution pickel? Should we "pressure" OPEC into producing more oil as Kerry suggests? What if after said "pressuring", OPEC doesn't increase production? What do we do then, threaten them with sanctions, or get an U.N. resolution to invade them and take over production?
Why not. Bush seems to think the invasion thing is the way to.
Just re-initiate the draft and start with Suadi Arabia, the on to Iran and N. Korea. Might as well get Venesuala and Have Exxon move and and build a pipeline straight to Houston.

So what's your solution pickel??

My solution, as I have have done is to go from driving my SS 454 to a 6 cylinder Firebird. Gets at least twice the gas mileage. And when I feel the need for speed , take a hop in the ole gas gusler.
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Maybe a comprehensive, coherent energy policy would help. One that included changes on the consumption side. CAFE standards haven't changed in years. As for ANWR, if Bush drilled there, he'd come up with a dry hole!
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Americans seem to think there's a Constitutional right to cheap gasoline...
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Theo, Americans certainly have a right to voice their opposition to rising fuel costs. Higher petroleum prices result in a higher cost of living for everyone. Whether it be higher gas prices or higher taxes, we most certainly do have Constitutional right to speak out against those things that make life more difficult. I've NEVER heard anyone even suggest that we have "Constitutional right" to cheap gasoline.
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Bush has no control over OPEC. Nor did Clinton.
The difference is that Clinton was more serious about fuel economy standards.

We don't like to admit it, but there is a direct relationship between fuel economy and consumption of gasoline. If fuel economy goes up, consumption goes down and reduces demand, which means supplies go up and prices come down.

The Bush Admin has been opposed to aggressive fuel economy standards.

It has consistently weakened the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards and allows SUVs a less stringent CAFE standard, currently 20.7 miles per gallon (mpg). Auto companies already add weight to trucks to place them over the current 8,500 pound weight, which exempts them from CAFE standards. Since about half the passenger vehicles on the road are SUVs, that's not wise policy if one is serious about saving oil and gasoline. In December, new Bush CAFE proposals were made to increase the number of weight classes. By creating more truck weight classes, automaker will have new opportunities to fatten their vehicles to take advantage of weaker standards.


The only proposal the Bush Admin has is research and development into hydrogen fuel cells - which is years away from bearing fruit. However, usage of hybrid vehicles is a current technology that can be used now.

The National Academy of Sciences, said it is possible to achieve a more than 40% improvement in light truck and SUV fuel economy over a 10-15 year period.

see allso: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/mpg/fetrends/s03004.pdf
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