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Old 03-27-2004, 07:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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DO you believe this is an accurate description of Liberals and Conservatives?

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Democrats (I think to myself) are liberals who believe the people are basically good, but that they need government help to organize their lives. They believe in freedom so fervently that they think it should be compulsory. They believe that the poor and ignorant are victims of an unfair system and that their circumstances can be improved if we give them help. Republicans (I think to myself) are conservatives who think it would be best if we faced the fact that people are no damned good. They think that if we admit that we have selfish, acquisitive natures and then set out to get all we can for ourselves by working hard for it, that things will be better for everyone. They are not insensitive to the poor, but tend to think the poor are impoverished because they won't work. They think there would be fewer of them to feel sorry for if the government did not encourage the proliferation of the least fit among us with welfare programs.
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Or how about this one?


Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.

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Ol' Winston Churchill hit that right on the nose. But then again, he usually did on everything.
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was with you until here:

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They think there would be fewer of them to feel sorry for if the government did not encourage the proliferation of the least fit among us with welfare programs.
The Republicans are more interested in the "individual" than "the group". Thus, it is fair to read into their philosophy that one (an individual) should move from a place with no jobs to a place where there are jobs. Rather, now we have people (as a poverty group) sitting around for generations and years waiting for industries to come back and hire them that are long gone.

Funny how it was for the common good (the group) that we bussed children into schools for de-segregation, but we won't bus these same people (as individuals) to where there are jobs, and yet we have 20 million illegal aliens (a group) gainfully employed who thought nothing of traveling thousands of miles from Mexico and beyond (as individuals).

Now, the Democrats pushed "the group":
Welfare; de-segration, quasi-citizenship for illegals.

And the Republicans push the individual:
If you want to stay there and starve, fine; You want to go to a different school, move to a new area; You don't want to pick tomatos or wash dishes, will find someone who will.

That's my take on it anyway...

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Old 03-27-2004, 08:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yet when he was 30, he left the Conservative Party to join the Liberal Party. He switched parties like shirts.
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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As he shakes his head in disblief.

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Old 03-27-2004, 05:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think Andy is right.
Democrats say things like "the system could help people".
Republicans say things like "people will abuse the system".
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Or the ever popular:

A Liberal = A Republican who's been arrested.

A Conservative = A Democrat who's been mugged.
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Old 03-27-2004, 10:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No, your terms refer to Idealists and Realists.
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