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03-02-2004, 05:20 AM
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Will there be anyone left to enjoy their new freedoms?????
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html
How many will die but more importantly, how many will survive.
Seems like they are there own weapon of mass destruction.
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03-02-2004, 06:22 AM
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Come on seriously, what did you think was going to happen once the government collapsed and some people started working with the invader while others chose to fight the enemy and all who help then in any way?
I mean this has happened so often throughout history that it should not come as a suprise anymore, in fact it should be expected, anywhere on earth where the lines between 'good' and 'evil' are this blurred.
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03-02-2004, 07:01 AM
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The thread presumes Iraqis have new freedoms. Can they select their own government? No. Every action requires U.S. approval including awarding contracts.
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03-02-2004, 08:41 AM
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There is not any question that Iraqis have more freedom now, suggesting otherwise is disingenuous IMO.
Can they select there own Government? Not yet and perhaps not ever as none of us can know whether democracy will work there, but did they have more freedoms under dictatorship... certainly not.
MTA, your post appears to assume that the US has no interest in the welfare of the Iraqi people. It's certainly your right to have that opinion, but but I don't think that's an accurate portrayal of the situation.
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03-02-2004, 09:00 AM
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This is as good a reason as I can find for attacks against Shiia interests and shrines http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4428430/ , reports about these types of attacks were made weeks ago.
I wonder what in Islam gives approval for this type of terrorist attack... and why the entire Muslim community throughout the world isn't outraged at the Islamist extremist murderers who commit them and get aid and support from other Islamic governments and interests (Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia come to mind) to commit them.
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03-02-2004, 11:29 AM
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Maybe if the terrorist-friendly countries of Syria and Iran didn't help all sorts of scum cross the border to blow things up, we wouldn't be having those issues. It's sad that those countries fear a free Iraq so much that they will do anything to destroy it.
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03-02-2004, 11:36 AM
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Goodbytes, that's like saying the Mexican government is trying to send illegal immigrants across the borders.
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03-02-2004, 11:50 AM
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No, it's nothing like saying that because the mexican thing you are implying is only speculation. Whereas with this situation, we actually have proof that this violence is coming from non-iraqis. What proof you ask? Well I'm glad i'm bookmarking links so liberals can't just conveniently forget evidence that runs contrary to their Bush-hating rhetoric. Back in early February, we discovered a 17-page letter, a plea for more aid, written to al-qaeda by an operative inside of Iraq. Quote: |
It says that the jihad against the Americans in Iraq is going badly. The Iraqis are not signing up for martyrdom or jihad, they do not even permit the jihadis to organize their terrorist attacks from local houses, and, worst of all, the Americans are not afraid of the terrorists.
| Here's a review of the situation written by Michael Leeden, who I believe has had the ear of multiple Presidents on matters suchs as terrorism.
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03-02-2004, 12:52 PM
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I'm not talking about that. I'm talking your implication that the national governments of Syria and Iran are to blame.
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03-02-2004, 02:53 PM
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I'd like to see the actual proof that the fighters in Iraq are all coming from Syria and Iran. It's a little too convenient for the Bush administration don't you think? Both Iran and Syria are under pressure to reform and so they both decide to put themselves in danger at such a volatile period of time? Just to give Bush a perfect reason for his next war games?
So show me the proof, show me the arial footage and video surveilance please. I don't want news articles or comments by the famous 'un-named officials in high places'.
Where is the proof that is so convenient for Bush to blame everything that is going wrong in Iraq on other countries?
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