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Old 02-27-2004, 11:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Jean Bertrand Aristide (what is going on)

Near as I can tell he was popularily elected by a large margin.

Who is against him (in country)?

Why are they trying to take power?

How many are there in the uprising?

Who is for him (in country), how does he stand in the polls with the general population?

Why is dominican republic more successful than Haiti?

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Old 02-27-2004, 12:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What, are you blind?

The US has invaded that country at least four(4) times in the last 100 years.

The Freanch have gone in at least twice!::::

"Near as I can tell he was popularily elected by a large margin. "

{Only because the US 82nd Airbourne was on the way}


"Who is against him (in country)?"

Most everyone!

"Why are they trying to take power?"

Better lives?

How many are there in the uprising?

" Most of the population."

Who is for him (in country), how does he stand in the polls with the general population?

Polls were called ,'Illegal the UN'.

Why is dominican republic more successful than Haiti?

'The US was not involved.'


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Old 02-27-2004, 12:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The US has invaded that country at least four(4) times in the last 100 years.
Why? To what ends?

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{Only because the US 82nd Airbourne was on the way}
Interesting so the population of haiti voted for him because the 82nd airborne was on the way. Do you have documents to indicate this. Why did the general populace vote for him with that threat in place. Did the USA say that we would attack the general populace if they did not vote that way?

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"Who is against him (in country)?"

Most everyone!
Most everyone. I have never seen that statistic. can I see your source. I have not been able to find a clear document which indicates where his support and opposition lies. Please do tell.


Could someone with a clear understanding of the situation actually tell me something beyond propaganda and rhetoric. I am really interested in the situation.

Poppa Doc and Aristide appear to be very different people with aristide appearing to be a bit nicer. I am interested in a synopsis of why he is hated by the rebels, What do the rebels have in store for the country... and the question from above not angry little uninformative blurts of venom.
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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5th (14 yrs. old) Grade education! (Avg:Hait)

What, do you want?

Avrage age of a USMC is 19!

Should we kill them all?



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Old 02-27-2004, 12:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Interesting and more wordy but still nonsense.
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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After a discussion with 3 Hatian students all in their 30s their answer to what the whole issue is about is who will controll the drug trade.
No more no less. Haiti is a major transshipment point for drugs going to the us.
Their opinion is both sides are a bunch of crooks and it really doesn't matter who wins the people loose.
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Possibly but I usually shy away from gang leaders and thugs who take over in a coupe because they typically are worse in the long run.

I do not know how many people have died at aristides hands if any. But I will guarantee if these clowns get into power things could get very much worse.
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I've been trying to get a handle on Haiti as well. Ever since I heard that Kerry had blamed the problems on the George W. Bush, I wanted to get some facts. I remember when Clinton put Aristide back in power in '94, but I didn't know what it was all about. Found commentary at WND by Jane Chastain. I don't think I've read her before, but here's what she had to say: link
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My friends answer is to take all of the ones presently in power and the ones trying to overthrow them, line them all up and shoot them, then Hati will stand a chance to survive as a free country, but not as long as either group rules.
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Old 02-27-2004, 01:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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All I know contrary to nomaxim's diatribe of random unexplained conjecture.

In 2000 an election was held and Aristide won handily.

Whitebeard, can your friends give more details or are they just anti establishment types who with out thought attack aristide.

I do not know them and can't evaluate their politics nor their reasoning. For all I know they are anarchists who do not like Aristide. Or they could be well informed and rational. I can't tell from where I sit. they also could just be nomaxim's types
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