#9 software...what do you think?

[Rand Dusing]

Quote from page 2 on Resellerratings.com of #9 Software (not the one that says Number 9 Software).

11/30/02 10:37 PM
BEWARE!!!! NON LEGIT SOFTWARE
As a beginning reseller not knowing what I was doing, I purchased a windows 2000 prof disk and 3 COA stickers for Windows XP. Paid $222 for the four purchases. Started getting suspiciouse about legal issues concerning COA stickers without the disk. Just so you all know, Microsoft doesn't consider a liscenced product by COA sticker alone. Called Microsoft to ask them about the legal terms of just a CD or just a COA.. According to Microsoft both COA and matching original CD are required to be a legal owner of there software and that just one or the other is considered pirating. Microsofts office was egger to have me send in the products for investigation, so they could persue legal issues with #9 Software. I was conned out of $222 of useless cd's and stickers. #9 Software does not allow return on these products, I'm sure because they already know these items are not legal. So don't be a sucker like me.. If your gonna buy an Microsoft OS without a CD, or without a CD, you just as well go to Kazaa.com and pirate it, same story except #9 Software charges money for useless stuff. The CD was okay, but remember not legal... MICROSOFT DOESN'T GIVE YOU RIGHTS TO THEIR SOFTWARE THIS WAY!!! I figure any company that deals in this manner is only looking for idiots to spend money on illigal software products like myself. So of course I will never do business with them again... If you do plan on buying from #9 Software I seriously advise you to make sure your getting a legal edition of the software your buying....

I take it this guy is wrong? Another post said he was.

[Rand Dusing]

I have a question about licenses while were on the topic. If I was making PCs for people and sold them a PC with Windows XP Pro would I have to give them the XP Pro CD along with the COA or can I only give them the COA. Don't they have to own a CD for it to be legal?

[John Prophet]

kind of a grey area of some sort......cuz Msoft knows about 90million companies sell coa's etc....sort of like selling black market cigerettes, the tobacco farmer comes out ok either way.

[Rand Dusing]

These people seem to have some very dissasified customers and according to one the practice bad licensing policies.

[Richard Cranium]

Just because some JERK Wanna-Be System Builder thought he could get around the Microsoft COA, don't get the wrong idea.

A true system builder has a "Tax Number" and files with the IRS

I refuse to drag up the Microsoft COA mumbo jumbo -again- as it is very difficult to elicit from them and varies from "end" consumer, to builder. Anyone wanting to delve into this arena feel free.

Rand Dusing You must include an original operating system CD with the product key code on all system sales.
You are not allowed to even resale trade-in units that have an operating system already in them with out the same. You must format or include the CD & Key Code.

Doc

[mlee97]

The COA's are completely legal. Microsoft created the COA's as a legal indicator of one license to operate said software. Provided they are guinuine, it was sold by Microsoft at a one to one ratio. Every license was sold with a COA and every COA had a license. Therefore Microsoft did in fact receive compensation for the license. The only question is "did they receive enough compensation for the license through their distribution channel?". If that's not the case they can file suit against their channel seller. However, remember that Microsoft does track their COA's so if a distributer were selling outside their conditions, then Microsoft could either not honor the registration, which they never do, or they can settle it with their distribution partner, as they always do.

[Rand Dusing]

Ok, so bascially I should just get a an OEM Windows XP for other people but if I want to build a server for myself I can just get the COA.

[nodnerb2]

Hi,

I am sure the DOC has bought plenty of stufff from 9 Softawre.

If it were a duffer you would read about in Resellerratings long before this question was posed.

Cheers

Nodnerb2

[sevenal]

good folks good prices