AIPCS systems- Internet fraud

[Isa Dragon]

I am starting this new forum so that we may discuss what is going on with AIPCS. I dont have time to get into any details right now, but from what I heard Lambros Ballas, the owner of this company is visiting this site on a regular basis, I believe he should have a say about what is going on. So what do you say, Lambros you up for an on line discussion? I am ready to go toe to toe can you defend what you are doing to many of your customers? Are you hiding behind a contract filled with so much legelese that you trick us into signing a contract that was designed spacifically to rip us off. Do you honestly think a judge is that stupid he wont see it right away. Do you think he is going to go for- well they signed a contract basically stating I could rip them off. So I dont have to send them their money back, or give them any kind of product. The stupid thing is, you still have your website up like it means something. We all know you are a dishonest business person now, and run a company that was never even started. People when you go to his site dont be tricked look closely at all the computer pictures they are all the same, they dont change except maybe the color of the lights within the system. Read the contract carefully, read between the lines, he is telling you he is going to rip you off. We skimmed through it thinking they were a good honest company but after so long waiting we finally read word for word and realized it was a scam. So Mr Ballas come forth and protect your behind, stick up for you company and come clean what is really going on and why are so many of your customers dissatified..... Well? I am waiting? If I am wrong let me know why we didn't recieve any equipment, our promised money back, and why your financing company no longer provides services to you but you still have it on your website like they are still working with you? Well?

[Isa Dragon]

Oh yes when I get more time, probley tonight I am goint to print word for word this contract that was sent to our home for us to sign, then when I get my printer hooked back up I will scan it and attach the original document. If chalanged I will also scan all corespondence with this company and attach that as well. Thank you again.

[Isa Dragon]

1. Definitions: As used in these Terms and Conditions, the "Agreement" shall mean this agreement or proposal, as applicable, that incorperates these Terms and Conditions and all it's attachments and exhibits; products, including without limitation, hardware, software, firmware, materials, articles, item or work, together with all related documentation, packaging, and labeling provided for in the Agreement, "Services" shall mean all technical assistance and information to be furnished under the Agreement; and the "Company" shall mean AIPCS Systems Technologies, Inc, its affiliates, and subsidiaries named in the beginning of the Agreement and so identified as such in the Agreement.

(So far it is very clear)

[Isa Dragon]

2. Terms and Conditions: Customer and the Company agree to be bound by all the terms and conditions set forth below and which is hereby incorporated by this reference into the Agreement and made a part of the Agreement.

[Isa Dragon]

3. Terms of Payments: All payments to this company shall be made in U.S. Dollars according to the terms specified in the Schedule accompanying the Agreement ("Payment Terms"). All checks are subject to collection.

Customer shall be solely responsible and liable for payments of any and all freight charges, insurance, royalities, eligible taxes, levies. fees, duties, and other charges imposed by any licensors, companies, banks, collection agencies, individuals, and national, state, or local government authority arising from the sale and shipment of the Products or from the preformance of Services.

Unless otherwise agreed, terms of payment are net (10) days from the invoice. Any deliquent payment shall accrue interest at the rate of (1%) percent per month or at a maximum rate allowed under applicable usury laws, whichever is lower, from the date on which such payment was originally due and payable ("Default Interest Rate") Any prepayment for the Products and/or Services provided under the Agreement may be made without permium and penalty.

[Isa Dragon]

3.1 Customer herby authorizes the Company to investigate Customer's credit history and to obtain any information about Customer from one or more sources, including, without limitation, a consumer reporting agency, concerning the transaction contemplated by the Agreement. Customer hereby authorizes the Company to furnish information about Customer to one or more consumer reporting agences and/or *others*, who, in the Company's discretion, may properly recieve such information.

*my doing

[Isa Dragon]

3.2 Customer acknowledges that the Payment Terms are based on the credit information that Customer has provided to the Company *** prior to the execution of the Agreement. If, between the date hereof and the date of shipment, *(A) Customer's credit worthiness materially deteriorates or ***(B) Customer has breached any of this warranties and representations contained in the Agreement, then, the Company, in its resonable discretion, may *(X) terminate the Agreement and retain the down payment in full satisfaction of any claims it may have against Customer or (Y) modify the Payment Terms to (1) increase the sum payable at time of shipment to *__percent of the purchase price of the Products and/or Services; and/or (2) decrease the number of monthly payments and increase the amount of each installment of the deferred purchase price.

*I wonder how you can breach any of the warranties and representations contained in the Agreement if it is prior to the execution of the agreement???????
*(1) increase the sum payable at time of shipment to *__percent of the purchase price of the Products and/or Services;
Do they just insert whatever # they feel like in the ____

[Isa Dragon]

3.3 Title to the Products vests in the Customer upon payment in full. Until payment in full, Customer hereby grants Company a security interest in the Products and authorizes the Company to file financing statements and termination statements under the applicable provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code and Customer shall take such other steps as reasonably requested by the Company to maintain and perfect Company's security interest in the Products. Until payment in full, Customer shall not remove the Products from the location specified in the Agreement without the Company's written consent.

[Isa Dragon]

4. Shipment/Delay/Cancellation. The Company shall ship the Products in accordance with its normal and customary practice for such products ****(it is by law when doing so by credit processing 50 days)**** All Products shall be packed, marked, and shipped at Customer's expense in accordance with the terms of these Terms and Conditions and the requirements of the common carrier transporting such Products. *** In the event that the Company pays shipping and insurance costs, Customer shall reimburse the Company immediately and such ammounts shall be added to the invoiced amounts as seperate charges. All shipments shall be F.O.B. Company's manufacturing facility and will be consigned to a carrier in accordance with the instructions supplied by Customer. In the absence of such instructions, the Company shall select the most reasonable and direct routing. ***At the time the Company tenders delivery of the Products to the common carrier, all risk of loss or damage to the Products shall pass from the Company to Customer at such time and place and shall constitute full, complete, and final delivery.

*** so basically the product may not work when you get it and it wont be our fault it will be your fault

[Isa Dragon]

4.1 ***** If the Company is unable for any reason to supply the total demands for the Products under the Agreement and under other agreements, the Company may allocate its available supply among any or all customers on such basis as the Company may deem fair and practical without liablity to any customer for failure of performance that may result therefrom.
****The Company shall not be liable for any loss, damage, or penalty as a result of any delay in or failure to manufacture, deliver, or otherwise perform hereunder due to any cause beyond the Company's reasonable control.

*** That is enough for today..... are you starting to see what I and my husband see??? Let us know. Thank you. (More of the con comes up later near the end of the 3 page contract- perhaps it is not entirely clear now but I hope you will see it later too- just so much lawyer talk it sounds reasonable at first but when you read it over and over it just doesn't seem right)