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Old 08-03-2003, 02:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, were all told how buggy and unstable windows is .. Its true, too .. Although, Bill Gates, with all his money, why can't he build a stable version of windows? That just doesnt make sense, he could have as many programmers, kernal hackers and everything else on the job 24/7 ... Don't tell me "he just doesnt care" because thats not true, on the nerws, I forgot what cou ntry it was, but they chose linux instead opf windows even at a higher price! ... So obviously it is a big problem ... And I've been doing some testing with the new longhorn builds, and despite being builds there are some things considered done and they are buggy as hell ... So why? How can linux be so stable with ppl working for free yet microsoft, a multi billion dollar company cant build a decent fregin os ...

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Old 08-03-2003, 02:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Um, there's about a billion reasons...some of them even legitimate.
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Old 08-03-2003, 02:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1. Featuritis - MS wants to add all sorts of pretty features that look REALLLY cool and VERY easy to use (which they are) ... BUT ... they put more time into adding features and not nearly enough into testing

2. With linux you have beta testers all over the world constantly downloading the latest and greatest development kernels and reporting bugs.. MS has some people inside that test for alphas and a select number of people that test the betas

3. With linux you have a LOT of developers from across the world workign on their spare time, not as much pressure to write FAST.. but to write GOOD code. Also a LOT more eyes on each piece looking at the code looking for improvements.

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Old 08-03-2003, 05:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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One of my college instructors knew somebody who was a developer at MS. He said that before you were allowed to leave for the day, the code that you were working on had to compile. While this is good in that a build can be done at any given time, what happens at the end of the day when you want to leave? Most people will just hack what they need to in order to get it to compile (but not necessarily run right) so they can get out of work. I think that anybody who codes can attest to the fact that when you leave and come back the next day, you don't always remember exactly where you were when you left.

I also think that there are business reasons. As long as people are willing to pay for the bug fixes, why fix all the bugs? If they were to put out a rock solid OS with no problems what-so-ever, what are the chances that a significant number of people would upgrade to the next version?


I heard that Gates is royally POed about the xbox security being broken. I guess he appointed a panel of his top people to make sure that didn't happen. Demonstrating the ingenuity and resourcefulness of computer geeks who don't want to be restricted, it took a few months. If companies would learn from history, they'd concentrate on putting out a good product that people are willing to pay for instead of inventing hundreds of copy-protection schemes. (Take the last audio CD protection. The recording industry spent millions of dollars developing it. 2 days after it was released, somebody posted a method of defeating it using a dry erase marker. )

Just my somewhat lengthy $.02


*edit* - I just read this over and noticed I really didn't get to the point in the last paragraph. The point is that no matter how much you know or how good you are, somebody somewhere is better.
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Old 08-03-2003, 07:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll be perfectly honest here. When I first saw this "Why?" thread it made me think of the thread that just got deleted "Are you sure?"

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Old 08-03-2003, 09:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah .. Definately agree that if they put out a solid os no one would have any determining reason to upgrade for microsofts Overpriced **** ..

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I don't know what that is christian comp ... But Im assuming its not good ..
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"Are you sure?" was a thread that was created by someone that pressed [new thread] instead of [post reply]. After around 20 posts it was downright silly.


On another note, "And I've been doing some testing with the new longhorn builds"... is it in beta version? also, if so, where can i find it. I am anxious to try it out as with server 2003 (finished beta testing that 3 months ago)
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Old 08-04-2003, 01:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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