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Old 01-28-2003, 12:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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RE: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/igotahotdeal/

Store URL: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/igotahotdeal/

THIEVES! FRAUDS! SCHISTERS! SCAM ARTISTS! CRAP CUSTOMER SERVICE! THEY NEVER RETURN EMAIL EVER! NO 800 NUMBER!

BERNIE (MANAGER) THERE IS A LIAR AND CON! No one will give last names and they do the customer service shuffle and act as if they are all new hires, knowing nothing having to ask each other what to do.

Where to begin? I ordered a Kenwood HTB-504 (Home Theatre in a Box). It was $80.00 cheaper than I could get locally. (I paid $488.85 shipped) It was on "SALE". "Special" In fact it is still on special on there website.

Friday: It took a week to get to me. Ok fine a week I waited. I received gloss printed original Kenwood box that looked as if it had been around the world 10 times. It also happened to be opened on top and looked to have been taped back up 10 times too. I had UPS note the damaged looking box and that it had been opened.

I then notice that there is a hand written sticker on 2 sides of the box. One side english and the other spanish. The stick says VR-505 in handwritten letters. This sticker is stuck over the gloss printed box are where the included receiver model number is indicated on each side. It indicates that an inferior model receiver is in the box. BAIT AND SWITCH? DAMN RIGHT!

After searching Kenwoods homepage and talking to Kenwood customer service I learned the VR-505 in completely inferior to the VR-507. The VR-507 is the model shipped in the HTB-504 home theatre package. So I open the box and not only has in been bait and switched it is a REFURBISHED inferior receiver! I was shocked. I now have to wait the whole weekend to try and retun this trash. I email and email. No response to any of my eamil ever.

I call there phone number. No 800 number just good old long distance charges to Los Angeles. I am put on hold. Again when someone answers they will not give a last name only John. I ask for manager "Bernie". Again everyone is clueless as to what happened. They say send it back with our UPS label. He says he'll email it to me. I wait 2 hours and call back he tries to email me and give me a "Your email is broke" as he is on the phone I test email him and me. I get my email back in seconds. He stutters and assures me he has and wil email the label to me. I say fax it. An hour later he faxes it to me.

I take time off work to go to UPS and ship this garbage back.

Next Monday: I call 9AM and enquire as to the status of my FULL REFUND. I am shuffled to Bernie and he hems and haws trying to find my information. They ask if I included a letter in the packafe. I ask why? Are they confusing me with the thousands of others that they rip off daily. I demand a full refund. More hem snd hawing and a weak committment to get on it right away and give me my refund.

Tuesday: NO REFUND. No answers to my emails. I decided enough I will make my judgement on this company regardless of their compliance to the full refund. My bank will handle them if I am not fully refunded. Federal Trade Commission will be investigating there practices. Southland Better Business Bureau will hear from me. Yahoo Shopping will love my rating of them and have been contacted to investigate them as a reseller on Yahoo. Anyone know of anywhere else I can report this totally inappropriate activity to?

I WOULD SUGGEST STAYING FAR AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY REGARDLESS OF THEIR "SPECIALS".

Bernie if you feel this is an unfair review then REFUND MY MONEY NOW, e-mail me, call me after all you have my lifes information. It is not that hard to provide satisfactory customer service. You have failed me.

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Old 01-28-2003, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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umm...you forgot your [/endrant] tag on the end there...

Sorry to hear about your situation. I've been through that twice, and I hated it each time. Patience is key, and so is research. If you paid with a debit card, instead of a CC, then the jurisdiction falls under the ETFA (Electronic Transfer of Funds Act), which you can easily find info. about.

Good luck...
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Old 01-28-2003, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just to put emphasis on a couple of things:
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RETURN POLICY

100% Money Back Guarantee!
*** Note : Applies only to purchases made after May 24, 2002 ***

*** This offer does not apply to heavy items more than 50 lbs. *** We want you to be 100% satisfied with your purchase because we want you to shop with us in the future. If you are not satisfied with your order, simply return the item within 7 days for a full refund (less shipping & handling) A 15% restocking fee will be applied to your return if you decide to return the item after the 7th day.




Please be sure to include your RMA# and a brief note why you're returning the product with your package. You will receive a full refund of your purchase upon receipt of your returned package.

***Please Note: There is absolutely No Refunds after 7 days or Exchanges after the 14 days.

How to return an item:
E-mail Electronics Closeout (hotdeal@sbcglobal.net) or call our customer service at (213)749-2666 Monday - Friday, 9:00am - 5:00pm to notify a defective item and issue a RMA number. Please have your order number available. Please include a copy of your order confirmation email, write your RMA number on it and provide a return reason. Returns must be in like new condition. Returns will not be accepted without all of the original packaging, manuals and accessories. All returns must be received by Electronics Closeout within 14 days from the RMA number issuing date. Refunds will not be issued if a return is made without an RMA number or after 14 days of delivery of the order. Shipping charges are not refundable.

We recommend returns be made via UPS insured freight or insured parcel post for proof of delivery. Electronics Closeout accepts no responsibility for loss or damage items in return transit. You are responsible for all freight charges. However, we will pay for the return shipping, if the item is damaged or defective, or if the wrong item was shipped.
http://store.yahoo.com/igotahotdeal/info.html

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Old 01-28-2003, 01:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you can't get them to fix the problem:
http://shopping.yahoo.com/protection/buyerprotect.html
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I was refunded my money but i would never suggest business with this company. I contacted everyone from FTC, DOJ, CA AG, BBB, etc.

BBB in Los Angeles reports they have numerous switch and bait reports for this company some remedied some not.
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Be sure to tell yahoo shopping about that company also.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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oh don't worry i b|tched all over whereever i could including yahoo.
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Old 01-30-2003, 04:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Good, hopefully if they get enough compliants they will kick them out of their mall. Then only eBay will have them...
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