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Old 01-12-2003, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cyberpowerpc.com Any Good?

Is this place a good place to buy my computer? Has anyone had any problems with them?

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Old 01-13-2003, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have bought 3 pc's from them,one for me and 2 for clients.Their weekly specials are great and out of the 3 ive had no major problems. Had one that was missing some software,called them and they sent it out to me next day air.

I personally would reccomend them.Ibuypower is another i have used in the past for clients,they have about the same prices and specials as cyberpower,but their tech support was rude to me.
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Old 01-13-2003, 08:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Out of a possible 10 rating they have a 7.25 over the last 6 months - and a 6.19 rating overall.
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To begin with I would like to deeply thank all of those who took the time to post their ratings here at Resellerratings.com about CyberPower. If not for their comments I would most likely have never received any kind of refund.

I strongly discourage purchasing a product from this company or any company that has a rating of less than 9.0. Why? Well I’m a teacher so I tend to think of things along the lines of grades. A 6.19 overall rating translates into a D in my grade book.


My son bought a computer from CyberPower last October and we had an unreasonable amount of difficulty with their tech support. Getting them to answer the phone was an accomplishment. He saved up over a thousand dollars over a period of three years to get his dream gaming machine. It cost me over $100.00 in shipping and paperwork to get his money back.

We sent it back and CyberPower returned it TWICE! With over 20 pages of documented paperwork that included the 4 receipts of registered letters asking them for a refund as well as UPS tracking reports that it had been returned. CyberPower only refunded $59.00 and still “wanted more proof.” Our Credit Card Company was able to get a full refund from them.


Even though CyberPower provides a faster product he ended up buying a Dell which he seems happy with and has had no problems, although he is reluctant to call their tech support now because of this nightmare.



Here are some things to know about getting refunds legally from a US business.

1. Before you buy look on line for complaints.

If you aren't sure about the company's reputation like soybeanmilk ask around.
I googled ‘CyberPower complaints’ (without the apostrophes) and came across Resellerratings.com and a couple others web sites with complaints about CyberPower.

Because the number of users that complain about CyberPower on line is extraordinarily numerous and most of the complaints were consistent about communications and refund problems that was a red flag for me. Unfortunately we had already ordered from them.

2. Read through all of the warranty paperwork.

Be aware that even though the company can say they aren’t liable for certain things; they are always subject to state and federal business laws.

While getting through to CyberPower within the 7-day period to request a Return Merchandise Authorization Number was impossible the Federal Trade Commission says they have to give the customer a full refund if the request was made within 30 days of receiving the merchandise.

3. Put it in writing, make copies and keep the original paperwork in a file.

We got the computer and began to have problems immediately. As noted by many, phone calls to tech support were essentially frustrating and futile. Emails were not replied to so I wrote them letters and sent along copies of my e-mail to them. Make sure the first letter is post marked within the 30-day warranty period.

4. Send all your correspondences by Registered Mail.

To send a letter by registered mail you have to take it down to the post office. You will fill out a small form with both the sender and recipients address. It only costs a few dollars, takes a little time, but is well worth the investment.

The recipient signs a copy of this receipt and it is sent back to you by mail. This is a record verifying that the person received the mail directly from the hands of the delivery person. If they refuse the delivery person will make a note of that and return it along with the letter to you.

I would have never done this if I had not it had not been for Resellerratings.com. This provided the proof I needed that I tried to return the computer to CyberPower within the 30-day warranty period required for a full refund.

It is my contention and the FTC agrees that this practice of not answering the phones, putting customers on hold on the phone for extraordinary periods of time, not returning calls, not replying to e-mail and written correspondence are evidence of breach of warranty.




5. Know whom to contact. Be persistant and patient.

The Better Business Bureau already had this company listed as “Buyer Beware.”

I know that a lot of young folks are hard-core gamers like my son and may not understand how to get their money back.

Customers were and still are losing their hard earned money to this company so I resolved to take further actions. I also wanted to encourage CyberPower to be responsible to their consumers when it comes to communications as well as realize they are incurring liabilities with their standards of business practices.

First contact your Credit Card Company. They can be your advocate and middleman for getting a refund. If it’s been less than 30 days since the charges were made to your account they can freeze the funds until the dispute is settled. Legally the company you have the dispute with has to settle within a certain period of days or the funds are returned to you if you can prove you have returned the product.

It’s 60 days in most cases. Read through your Credit Card agreement. Most of the time you can find this information listed on the back of the credit card statement.

If they aren’t helpful consider using another Credit Card Company. There’s a lot of competition out there. I use USAA MasterCard. They offer banking needs to all members of the US Armed Forces and are very proactive in resolving conflicts.

Second, notify the Federal Trade Commission. It may take several months to get a reply. The FTC explained to me by letter that this was probably a breach of warranty and to contact an attorney. You can file a complaint on line here:

https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.s..._ORG_CODE=PU01

Next, notify the Attorney Generals Office in the state where business sells their product.
The State Attorney General is an attorney, an elected official and a public servant. This is part of the job he or she is elected to do and best of all it’s paid for by tax dollars and not out of your pocket. It may take several months to get a reply.

The Attorney General of the State of California replied to my complaint by mail that they are investigating CyberPower’s business practices and have put them on their “watch list” In this instance CyberPower does business out of California and you can file a complaint here:

http://caag.state.ca.us/consumers/mailform.htm

6. Print up and keep copies of on line tracking reports when you return a product.


CyberPower tried to return the computer twice. Since they have never replied to any of my letters I can only speculate as to why. Most likely it’s because of the poor business skills when it comes to communications.
I used UPS to return the computer because they could package it properly, offered insurance and we could easily track it online.

I write as an avocation and would like to repay Resellerratings.com. and the users here with some important information, as well as a valuable experience. The hope is that if customers put enough pressure on CyberPower by knowing how to hold them accountable they will improve their customer service skills.

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Old 08-07-2009, 03:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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updating this old post

I see these are very old posts. Well, I can attest that CyberpowerPC has not cleaned up their act here in 2009. Early this year I ordered a system that cost over $1600 and returned it after many, many problems. I am still struggling to get a full refund six months later.

The thing that really makes me maddest is that my Windows event log was full of BIOS errors, and the BIOS (surprise, surprise) just happened to be BETA software. Yep, you heard that right. My BIOS was a beta version. After I discovered it was beta software, we talked about it and they admitted it. It was the only way, they said, to get SLI working on the particular motherboard that was installed in my PC.

So I disputed the partial refund they gave me, and the Indian-staffed customer support that Capital One has apparently outsourced decided that they would not support my dispute (after I finally made them understand what I was trying to say). At this point, I am thinking about making their lives miserable by filing in small claims court (only costs $30 or so in my state) and making them fly here to Kentucky to fight it. I have been to small claims court three times, and won all three times, because I base my case on logic and common sense. You can't sell something with beta software on it. It's not reasonable, reliable, and possibly not legal. Did I ever agree to be their beta tester? No.

So anyway, avoid these scam artists. They are still causing trouble.

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Old 09-22-2009, 11:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I had to take my computer 5 times and when it finally overheated and died they decided to replace the motherboard I told them was defective from the get go.

This was in 08 I'm glad I got my problems resolved but they never replaced the memory that was giving me problems since it was not compatible I ordered some more and my problems went away.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:34 AM   #7 (permalink)
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noticing this was way back i see reviews lately some say there awsome and some say they have problems i want to get one from them

CyberPowerPC - Unleash The Power this is the pc i want i'm not changing anything cept get lower gb 320 miight be enough all i'm doing is gonna play aion and wow maybe some cute aeriagames i'm changing the case to pink for my style too.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Read the low reviews because some people recently are still having problems. Some people just give up and never write a review and chalk it up to a loss others are pretty vocal about it including myself.

If you look at the lifetime rating there is a 75 percent chance you will not have any problems I would give it a 5 percent positive/negative deviation and say that 70 percent have no problems at any given month and 30 percent do.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Is this place a good place to buy my computer? Has anyone had any problems with them?
Just from attempting to buy from them, I wouldn't ever consider it again. To be treated like I was and for them to have very little knowledge about what they even sell is a scary proposition, considering I was ready to buy a near $4k gaming rig from them. The thought on the ensuing customer service after the sale seems it would be like a nightmare if I were treated like this before a sale. Though this is long, here is a rating I gave, though removed because I actually didn't purchase it. I will also paste here an actual online discussion from one of their sales reps.

While I actually didn't get to purchase the PC, I was disappointed CyberPower canceled my order number, due to their reason that the internet made an error. I ordered the PC @ over $3100 and they said the internet made a pricing error, which really means their website made the error. After thinking about this further, they should have honored the price since all I did was select the items I wanted with no control on how the system tallies the line item pricing. I promptly got an email the next day stating this reason, which was "internet error". That's fine, though their caveat at the bottom of their web page really is vague covering this area, I really wanted this PC.

Anyway, I called and thought I would still get the PC and had a few questions to ask about certain items. They were not too keen to understanding RAM speed and that it had to be factory set for certain MOBOs and then be preset before shipping to use faster RAM (The MOBOs in question automatically default any RAM faster than 1333mhz to this same speed, unless you have the voltage in the BIOS changed to run the faster ordered RAM, I wanted the 1600Mhz). They kept saying I would void the warranty if I overclocked the RAM, which I didn't ask if I could do (if you note the chat below), I ask if they set it up as the RAM offered is faster than the MOBO default setting is.

After getting that straight, they still didn't make it clear that it would be set up that way, only that they understand that. A few days later after looking over the configurations again, I asked about changing the tower in a certain configuration, the rep said no, they don't do that as it is their policy (no where to be found), that I have to build a custom rig by choosing a setup that offers different towers. I cannot fit anything over 22" where my PC will reside. I thought his statement was odd considering the tower I could use (Cooler Master RAF 922) would work fine and the fact that I was able to choose any other part for that particular setup outside of the tower???. He also said they don't carry Cooler Master brands. So I went to a custom setup where I could choose from various towers, and behold, 4 Cooler Master brands were listed?

After I called back, I felt like I was not being treated like a potential customer after telling (this is another rep) about the tower incident, he was confused why the other rep made his claim. After telling this second rep I wanted what would be about a $4000 rig and asked if they wanted to make a sale; he was totally indifferent. I then asked if the Tower I chose would hold the components I wanted with this unit, and he said they wouldn't know until they begin to build it. I thought, "Huh, are these people not PC builders?" That would mean my order could go through, possibly be delayed, getting it too late and having to lose possible funds sending it back if it weren't right or canceling the order. So I just decided to not purchase anything from them as I felt I would be treated equally bad if I had an issue with a purchase.

Cyberpower, if you really want to make money and customers happy, treat them as you would want to be treated when you are the customer. Have your reps have a decent knowledge base in what you offer to sell. I was ready (as proven by submitting an order that was turned away) to purchase this very high end gaming rig, only to be treated with a quasi-like scorn for asking for changes.
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cyberpower pc warranty issues

Here is the bad experience I just had with Cyberpower PC. I'm posting it here along with the others in hopes that those thinking to make such a purchase can be better informed prior to making same mistakes I made.

RE: Warranty issue; one of my USB ports has self-destructed
Fri, November 20, 2009 2:03:53 PMFrom: Cyberpower Tech Support <techsupport@cyberpowerpc.com>Add to Contacts
To: Cameron Becker <maricam4@yahoo.com>


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Cust#G6VXN6

Hello Cameron. I'm sorry but as stated previously this is not a warranty issue since the port is physically damaged. If the port was intact and working before but had stopped recognizing devices connected to it, then it could be considered defective and might be covered under warranty. In this situation, the issue concerns a part that has been damaged when you removed your headphones you connected to the port and can be considered the result of abuse or misuse when unplugging the headphones. Our policy clearly states that such damage would not be covered and as such we are honoring the terms of our warranty.



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From: Cameron Becker [mailto:maricam4@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:33 PM
To: Cyberpower Tech Support
Subject: Re: Warranty issue; one of my USB ports has self-destructed


The USB port is not "physically damaged" as you claim, the port is "defective" because it is a USB port that was being used properly to connect headphones and "fell apart" when I unplugged my headphones. If the CD tray falls out when I take out a CD or the DVD tray falls out when I remove a DVD they would be "defective" and this situation is no different. It would be in your best interest to honor your (3) year warranty and replace this "defective" USB port.

I am absolutely using the rear port right now but it is less convenient and I have a warranty in effect on the front port which came apart during normal use. My suggestion would be that you do the right thing and replace the defective USB port. I have had about (10) desktop computers in my lifetime and I have never had a USB port just "come apart" on me during normal use until I bought a PC from Cyberpower.

Nothing will turn a satisfied customer into an "unsatisfied" customer quicker than a company that does not honor its warranty and stand behind their product. Please give this a little more thought before you decide not to honor your warranty.

Thank you in advance for your consideration in this matter.

Cameron W Becker



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From: Cyberpower Tech Support <techsupport@cyberpowerpc.com>
To: Cameron Becker <maricam4@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 10:21:54 AM
Subject: RE: Warranty issue; one of my USB ports has self-destructed


Cust#G6VXN6

Hello Cameron. I'm sorry but this issue would not be covered under warranty since the port is physically damaged. You will need to either use the other ports, such as the one on the back panel, or connect a USB hub for additional front panel ports.



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Cyberpower Inc.
(888)900-5180




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From: Cameron Becker [mailto:maricam4@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:31 PM
To: techsupport@cyberpowerpc.com
Subject: Warranty issue; one of my USB ports has self-destructed


I purchased a Gamer Infinity SLI KO about (7) months ago and I really love it! That being said, the USB port I have been using to plug in my headphones just fell apart today. The little metal keeper that goes around the port and keeps it in place popped out and will not pop back into place and keep the port intact. I'm enclosing a picture of it so you'll know what I'm talking about. Please let me know how I can get this fixed asap.

Thanks
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