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Old 09-27-2002, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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FRUDED BY CARERA ELECTRONIS

I HAVE BEEN FRAUDED BY THIS GUY:

CARERA@JUSTICE.COM

HIS OTHER E-MAIL WAS THIS: CARERA@ONEBOX.COM

I also know who use other alias like: CAROMA

His web page was this:

http://store.yahoo.com/carera

then yahoo close his web page and he open again a new one:

http://store.yahoo.com/carera4you

The Caroma web page was this:

http://store.yahoo.com/caroma


After ordering on his web page a Powerbook G4 800Mhz, he said he was from Spain and that he will give me the UPS tracking number and after that want me to send him the 50% thru Western Union for 800$ (plus 52$ western union fee), and when the packege arrive to me i will have to send him the other 800$ (the powerbook price was 1600$). He bill the package at UPS:

1st UPS Tracking #: 1Z311T316992798427
2nd UPS Tracking #: 1Z445T145495230422


After that tracking number he reply to me with another tracking number and he said the powerbook will come out from Netherland (Holland) and not Spain as he said at beginning.

After a week there was no movement on the UPS tracking numbers and I was suspecting a lot at this point, so i ask him to cancel the whole deal and refund me the 800$ because he was not shipping the powerbook

He reply and he said he cant refund because they have a 30 day waiting for refunds....i was starting to get angry....so warn him if no refund where made i will file an Interpol complaint against him.

Then again he reply and said he will sell me one more unit using escrow service and i will pay the other 50% remaining on the first one, for a total amount of 2552.00 U$D including wire fees and escrow fees. He only wanted to use this escrow company: www.i-escrow.com
I agree with him, and start the transacction, and send the money thru a wire bank transfer to www.i-escrowsol.com
After they receive my money www.i-escrowsol.com close his web page and run away. The i-escrowsol web page is: www.escrowsol.com
The bank coordinates for the wire was these:

Receiver Bank Name: Rietumu Banka

Account: 104807162
Beneficiary Name: Carte Blanc LTD
Beneficiary Address: Suite E, Marage Plaza
City: Ladyville
Country: Belize (Central America)
Swift Code: RTMBLV2X

I start to search on google and founf that the beneficiary address of Carte Blanc belong to this company:

http://www.1alpha-offshore.com/Contact-Us.htm

That company is an Offshore company.....strange...anyway i contact them and explain them my situation, thei reply saying they didnt know anything about any escrow company....but they also said me they will refund my money...after one week talking to those Alpha Offshore S.A. they said the wire was send to my account....but after 7 days no money arrive to my account....tomorrow i will go to the Interpol police and file the complaint agains them....does someone know if Carte Blanc is credit card brand name? i think it is...right?

Any help will be usefull, please reply, thanks

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Old 09-27-2002, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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>>Then again he reply and said he will sell me one more unit using escrow service and i will pay the other 50% remaining on the first one, for a total amount of 2552.00 U$D

my sympathies, but...

why on earth did you send him even more money after that first payment?!

his willingness to sell you a second notebook (for basically free) should have sent up plenty of warning signals!!!

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Old 09-27-2002, 08:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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because i was too stupid, i know, im asking my self the same question again and again, i think it was because i was so exited i will make money reselling it
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Old 09-27-2002, 08:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i truly hope you wind up getting some of your money back but the odds are against you.

contact your bank, local authorities (maybe someboy else will have addt'l contacts)

and you've learned a valuable lesson i hope..."if a deal seems too good to be true, it probably isn't [true]".
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Old 09-27-2002, 08:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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oh...one last thought:

there are no reputable vendors who do mail/phone/internet orders who do this type of business, ie. where you pay 50% up front and then ask you to pay the remainder after getting the goods.

no way!!!
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Old 09-28-2002, 03:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah i know that now....the school was expensive....but i learned
Thanks anyway for your suggestion
Right now im talking to the Interpol Police
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csa1234,
You know, I just CANNOT BELIEVE that you've allowed yourself to be taken this way AFTER all the discussions on this and other similar frauds in the other threads you have suscribed too. You were repeatedly warned, you were repeatedly cautioned but still your GREED has gotten the better of you. I don't have one bit of sympathy for you and I hate to say it but you got what you deserved/paid for.
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well actually this people was offering escrow, so....what will you think if they offer you escrow service for the purchase?
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in fact, this purchase was made before the Exchange-USA trade was posted
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below is a copy of a recently MSN chat conversation i have with the Carera scammer:

Never give out your password or credit card number in an instant message conversation.

Caesar says:
well, well, well, so here you are again
carera says:
hello sir
carera says:
you didn't replyed with anithing but acusations
Caesar says:
yes, and you didnt refund, dont you?
carera says:
dear sir as we said we can't refound because we don't have the products in our deposit and that's why we asked the UK firm to provide you the powerbooks
carera says:
the money were sent to them
carera says:
we are sory about the incovenience
Caesar says:
thats not an excuse to not refund
Caesar says:
the Interpol complaint is already filed, howevere i can stop that only we use the escrow service i want which is escrowamerican.com
carera says:
dear sir you sayd thatou will send them the money with the PASSWORD and ey agreed to sed the powerbooks once we send them the scaned receipt
carera says:
they want obe sure that you have money prepared o let go.
Caesar says:
yes, but your reputation is too low, and I have a large list of people that also is trying to find you, because they said they you have fraud them
carera says:
dear sir they don't use escow service
Caesar says:
well, im sorry, in that case we have nothing else to do, than to keep going with this
carera says:
ey will deliver once they see that after the powerbooks will arive to you you will give em the password to them
Caesar says:
i said NO
Caesar says:
only escrow
carera says:
we also say that they will not use escrow
carera says:
please understand
Caesar says:
you must understand, i have lost here 3500$
Caesar says:
how you explain that?
carera says:
where you lost this muchmoney?
Caesar says:
your reputation is low, people is reporting you as frauds and scamer, Interpol also have files on you
Caesar says:
with the escrowsol
Caesar says:
escrowsol is a scam
Caesar says:
i cant recover my money back now
carera says:
dear sir the escrow company is not ours and we have nothing to fear about
carera says:
they can came in madrid and check us
Caesar says:
whats your full address and phone?
Caesar says:
yeah right, i remember you dont have on, dont you?
carera says:
what
Caesar says:
your address and phone number?
Caesar says:
so....?
carera says:
you have the address
Caesar says:
no, thats not a valid address
carera says:
the line of the phone no is not available to costumers
Caesar says:
its not for its for the Interpol
Caesar says:
i think they already know where you are and is not madrid as you are saying
carera says:
but where dear sir ?
Caesar says:
look as i told you they will proceed to track you on Monday
carera says:
ok
Caesar says:
i can stop this...only if i get my money back
carera says:
dear sir as we see you dont want to receive the powerbooks
Caesar says:
which is 852$
carera says:
so we will have to see in court
Caesar says:
after this?
carera says:
remember that our lawyers will win this
carera says:
no problem
Caesar says:
yeah, right, sure
carera says:
we will se in Madrid in our lawyer office
carera says:
thank ou for he corespondence
Caesar says:
no, once Interpol got you, they will get you to my country for legal actions
carera says:
we will wish you a nice day and we will hoppe that you will change your mid and after all you will buy the products
Caesar says:
in other word a court in my country
carera says:
but till hen we cant change your mid
Caesar says:
you people are increible....
carera says:
dear sir this is the last message
carera says:
thank you
Caesar says:
yo get my money, dont refund me, INterpol have lots of complaint against you and FBI too and then you warn me about courts?
carera says:
bye
carera says:
have a nice day
Caesar says:
watch out
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