eBay will give all your personal information to anyone

[DaQ]

Final message from eBay clearly demonstrates that their privacy policy favors shady companies over their own customers. They willingly gave out all my personal info after a completely unjustified complaint, but refuse to give me any details about it. Here's a quote:

"eBay created the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) program so that
intellectual property owners could easily report listings that infringe
their rights. When you became a member of eBay, you authorized us to
disclose your contact information to VeRO participants when necessary.

Under the eBay Privacy Policy, I can't provide any further information
about this report. I recommend that you contact the rights owner
directly regarding your concerns. "

I feel it is unfair for eBay to hide such an enormous hole in their privacy policy in fine print. Please, spread the word: eBay will give all your information away and will not even tell you why.

[Steve R Jones]

Kill two birds with one stone-> While you're spreading the word - remind people to NOT STEAL others copyrighted work.

Or phrased another way->Read the rules that you agreed to prior to posting anything

[DaQ]

Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

Kill two birds with one stone-> While you're spreading the word - remind people to NOT STEAL others copyrighted work.

Or phrased another way->Read the rules that you agreed to prior to posting anything

First of all, I didn't steal anything. I paid a lot of money for the curling iron and I have the right to sell it. As far as I understand vague messages from eBay, it wasn't the text I copied from their website that prompted the complaint. It was the fact the I was selling their product much cheaper than its retail price. So the manufacturer abused eBay's loose policies to have my item removed by claiming a completely baseless copyright violation.

But feel free to continue to contaminate this thread with banal comments and blame me. We'll talk when you get screwed in a similar situation. Its only a matter of time.

It's true that I didn't read the rules when I signed up for eBay account, but that's the case for the entire eBay user base minus a few lawyers that still use it for some reason.

[Steve R Jones]

I'm sorry if we don't see eye to eye...I personally don't think your situation is as bad as you think it is....

The "random companies" that now have your personal info - aren't they all related to curling iron company? And not some guys that sell porn for example? Have they done anything with the information? Isn't a lot of the information available to the general public via the phone book?

You orignially stated:

So eBay ruled that several lines of text publicly available on manufacturer's website that described the product was a good enough reason to release all my personal information to at least three companies:

Now you're saying it has to do with the price you were selling at...Which is it? On eBay did you run your ad as a privite individule or as a compay?


Or...None of my post really matters..Thanks for your warning

[DaQ]

Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

I'm sorry if we don't see eye to eye...I personally don't think your situation is as bad as you think it is....

The "random companies" that now have your personal info - aren't they all related to curling iron company? And not some guys that sell porn for example? Have they done anything with the information? Isn't a lot of the information available to the general public via the phone book?

Would you mind posting your name, address, phone number and email on this forum? Yes? I promise, I will not do anything with this information.

Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

Now you're saying it has to do with the price you were selling at...Which is it?

If you read the entire post instead of taking short sections out of context you will see that I first thought that I violated the copyright by copying the text. Later messages from eBay made it clear that description I copied from manufacturer was not the issue, but they refused to give me the real reason. Since I'm obviously not selling a counterfeit product, its clear to me that manufacturer is simply abusing eBay's loose, no questions asked policy to shut down anyone selling at lower prices.

Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

On eBay did you run your ad as a privite individule or as a compay?

I was selling it as a private individual.

[BTOtech.com]

Daq
The fact that vero proram gave your personal info to this company is not as important as why this company wanted your personal info. That is the question i would like to know.
on a brighter note. you are not the only one screwed by ebay and paypal. they screw people left and right. their use policies allow them to do so. is it right? no but it is not wrong apparantly. If you can open a company that provides a service like ebay and makes its name on not screweing people then you would be a god just like the guy that invented ebay.com to sell pez candy.

[Amazed001]

I'm really shocked, and also angry that eBay didn't even want to tell you the charges, and let you give your side of the story.

This is the USA isn't it, or did I make a wrong turn at Albuquerque? :-)

Isn't everyone entitled to Due Process of the law?

I know they have that agreement, signed by everyone on eBay, but a contract based in "questionable" law, may actually be void.

Just because it's agreed to, doesn't make it legal, either.

A contract must be beneficial to both parties to be binding. If eBay's policy is not fully legal, or questionable, you can fight it.

[Steve R Jones]

Originally Posted by Amazed001

I'm really shocked, and also angry that eBay didn't even want to tell you the charges, and let you give your side of the story.

This is the USA isn't it, or did I make a wrong turn at Albuquerque? :-)

Isn't everyone entitled to Due Process of the law?

I know they have that agreement, signed by everyone on eBay, but a contract based in "questionable" law, may actually be void.

Just because it's agreed to, doesn't make it legal, either.

A contract must be beneficial to both parties to be binding. If eBay's policy is not fully legal, or questionable, you can fight it.

Have you ever borrowed money to buy a car??? The Binding contract both parties sign clearly state that if you stop making payments - they will tow the car and mess up your credit score. That's not exactly beneficiall to both parties but it sure is legal Not making payments that you agreed to do isn't beneficial either...Whats a person to do?

If DaQ got zinged for selling one used item for less then a NEW retail item - then that is clearly not right.

[Amazed001]

Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

Have you ever borrowed money to buy a car??? The Binding contract both parties sign clearly state that if you stop making payments - they will tow the car and mess up your credit score. That's not exactly beneficiall to both parties but it sure is legal Not making payments that you agreed to do isn't beneficial either...Whats a person to do?

If DaQ got zinged for selling one used item for less then a NEW retail item - then that is clearly not right.

I think you're mixing apples with oranges... and confusing what I said, unless you didn't fully understand it.

Isn't everyone entitled to Due Process of the law?

they didn't even tell him the actual charges, and let him give his side of the story... that's not giving Due Process.

even the government can't get away with that, why should eBay be allowed to, just because they said they can in the contract?

Buying a car, and paying for it in installments IS legal bacause each party gets something for it. To keep you paying, an understanding is written that the car will be taken back if you stop paying.

It's beneficial to both parties because each is getting something from the deal... if the deal is allowed to continue to it's end... if not, that understanding you have, the car gets taken back, keeps you from breaching the contract.

Understand now?