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09-21-2009, 07:15 PM
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Personally, I found this one from the FAQ's page pretty funny, Quote: Q. Who is Accessorycircut?
A. Accessorycircut is a family owned and operated consumer electronics retailer based in santa monica,Ca(a suburb of California). For more than 20 years, we have worked hard to exceed customers expectations and provide the best service in the business. We are an authorized dealer for every manufacturer we offer, and we provide toll-free product assistance before and after the sale. We also stock everything we sell in our200,000 square foot headquarters. The facility also includes one of the largest in-house repair centers in the US, which services almost everything we sell.
| I think that they mean, "Santa Monica, CA. (a suburb of Los Angles)." But, what is funny is abt.com/custserv/abtFAQ, Quote: Q: Who is Abt?
A: Abt is a family owned and operated consumer electronics & appliance retailer based in Glenview, IL(a suburb of Chicago). For more than 73 years, Abt has worked hard to exceed customers expectations and provide the best service in the business. We are an authorized dealer for every manufacturer we offer, and we provide toll-free product assistance before and after the sale. We also stock everything we sell in our 350,000 square foot headquarters. The facility also includes one of the largest in-house repair centers in the US, which services almost everything we sell.
| There are more too. The FAQ's page of newworldvideodirect.com says, Quote: Q. How do I return an item?
A. To return an item you must contact Customer Service for prior approval and obtain an RMA number.
1. All merchandise purchased from Nwvdirect is sold in its original factory packaging with all contents as supplied to us by the manufacturer/distributor. Therefore it can be returned only if in original manufacturer's packaging, same condition as sold, with all literature/instructions/documentation and blank warranty cards.
2. Place the manufacturer's box into a shipping carton.
3. Please do not place stickers or shipping labels on the original manufacturer's package.
4. For your protection insure the package and ship via a traceable method. We are not responsible for lost or damaged packages.
| Now compare that to the FAQ's for accessorycircut.com, Quote: Q. How do I return an item?
A. To return an item you must contact Customer Service for prior approval and obtain an RMA number.
All merchandise purchased from Accessorycircut is sold in its original factory packaging with all contents as supplied to us by the manufacturer/distributor. Therefore it can be returned only if in original manufacturer's packaging, same condition as sold, with all literature/instructions/documentation and blank warranty cards.
Place the manufacturer's box into a shipping carton.
Please do not place stickers or shipping labels on the original manufacturer's package.
For your protection insure the package and ship via a traceable method. We are not responsible for lost or damaged packages
| Also, accessorycircut.com/faq. Quote: Q. What are your shipping rates?
A. All shipping rates are calculated based on the items in the shopping cart and shipping destination. All parcels are shipped ground shipping unless an upgrade shipping method is requested
| tristatecamera.com/faq, Quote: What are your shipping rates?
All shipping rates are calculated based on the items in the shopping cart and shipping destination. All parcels are shipped ground shipping unless an upgrade shipping method is requested.
| These, (notice they both have the year of 1977) accessorycircut.com/faq, Quote: Q. Is your website secure, and will my personal and credit card information be safe?
A. All on-line ordering is 100% encrypted through SSL. This technology ensures that credit card information transmitted to the site can only be seen by the site, and not by third parties. Our customer's satisfaction has been our priority since 1977.
Transactions on our site require the following personal information, which will not be sold or rented for trade or sale.
Name
E-mail address
Billing and shipping address
Telephone number
Type of credit card you are using
Credit card number and expiration date, or other form of payment
From time to time, we may offer special promotions to our customers. You may opt out of these offers by requesting us to do so via email.
We do not use cookies on our site. No data is stored on the client computer whatsoever.
We guarantee that every online transaction you make will be 100% safe. This means you pay nothing if unauthorized charges are made to your card as a result of shopping at our online store. Under the Fair Credit Billing Act, your bank cannot hold you liable for more than $50.00 of fraudulent charges. If your bank does hold you liable for any of this $50.00, we will cover the entire liability for you, up to the full $50.00. We will only cover this liability if the unauthorized use of your credit card resulted through no fault of your own from purchases made while using the secure server. In the event of unauthorized use of your credit card, you must notify your credit card provider in accordance with its reporting rules and procedures.
| copierswarehouse.com/faq_privacy. Quote: G. Is your website secure, and will my personal and credit card information be safe?
All on-line ordering is 100% encrypted through SSL. This technology ensures that credit card information transmitted to the site can only be seen by the site, and not by third parties. Our customer's satisfaction has been our priority since 1977.
Transactions on our site require the following personal information, which will not be sold or rented for trade or sale.
Name
E-mail address
Billing and shipping address
Telephone number
Type of credit card you are using
Credit card number and expiration date, or other form of payment
From time to time, we may offer special promotions to our customers. You may opt out of these offers by requesting us to do so via email.
We do not use cookies on our site. No data is stored on the client computer whatsoever.
We guarantee that every online transaction you make will be 100% safe. This means you pay nothing if unauthorized charges are made to your card as a result of shopping at our online store. Under the Fair Credit Billing Act, your bank cannot hold you liable for more than $50.00 of fraudulent charges. If your bank does hold you liable for any of this $50.00, we will cover the entire liability for you, up to the full $50.00. We will only cover this liability if the unauthorized use of your credit card resulted through no fault of your own from purchases made while using the secure server. In the event of unauthorized use of your credit card, you must notify your credit card provider in accordance with its reporting rules and procedures.
| And last but not least, accessorycircut.com/faq.asp. Quote: Q. At what point in the order/shipping process does Accessorycircut charge my credit card?
A. For in-stock merchandise, your credit card is charged when your order is finalized in our shopping cart (and we plan on it shipping within 24 hours). If your item is on backorder, your credit card is not charged until the item arrives (unless it is a special order).
| Back too abt.com/custserv/abtFAQ., Quote: Q: At what point in the order/shipping process does Abt charge my credit card?
A: For in-stock merchandise, your credit card is charged when your order is finalized in our shopping cart (and we plan on it shipping within 24 hours). If your item is on backorder, your credit card is not charged until the item arrives (unless it is a special order).
| Looks like Accessorycircut's legal department is going to be very busy. They have plagiarized from at least two of those companies.
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09-21-2009, 07:39 PM
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09-21-2009, 08:19 PM
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Just noticed the 'Terms and Conditions" page as well, Quote: Web Site Errors
Accessorycircut.com makes every effort to ensure that the information on Abt.com is accurate, complete and current. Despite our efforts, there may be instances when information about a Product contains inaccurate or incomplete data, including data about the Product's price or availability. Abt makes no warranty or guarantee that the information on Abt.com is error-free, complete, or current. We reserve the right to correct errors and/or update the content on Abt.com at any time without notice. Abt also reserves the right to refuse or cancel any order containing any error or inaccuracy, including after the order has been submitted, whether or not the order has been confirmed and your credit card charged. If your order is canceled after your credit card has been charged, we will issue a credit to your credit card in the amount of the charge. If product is marked "in stock" and not available, you will be notified within 48 hours.
| abt.com/about/disclaimer1.php3 Quote: Web Site Errors
Abt makes every effort to ensure that the information on Abt.com is accurate, complete and current. Despite our efforts, there may be instances when information about a Product contains inaccurate or incomplete data, including data about the Product's price or availability. Abt makes no warranty or guarantee that the information on Abt.com is error-free, complete, or current. We reserve the right to correct errors and/or update the content on Abt.com at any time without notice. Abt also reserves the right to refuse or cancel any order containing any error or inaccuracy, including after the order has been submitted, whether or not the order has been confirmed and your credit card charged. If your order is canceled after your credit card has been charged, we will issue a credit to your credit card in the amount of the charge. If product is marked "in stock" and not available, you will be notified within 48 hours.
Copyright 2007, Abt Electronics, Inc.
All rights reserved.
| BOLD highlights added to above quote by me.
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09-21-2009, 08:29 PM
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it looks like they are plagiarizing alot. abt.com is a bbb.org business Abt Electronics and Appliances | BBB Review | Glenview, IL they have an A+ rating and seem to stay connected with the public.. so... i wonder whats going on.. this is kinda weird. the company seems to have plagiarized two different companies.. nwvdirect.com and abt.com. one that is questionable and one that seems to have a good reputation.
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09-21-2009, 09:00 PM
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Actually two of the others appear to be the same company. The WhoIs for copierswarehouse.com gives, Quote:
Registrant:
copiers warehouse
50 w. 20th st
new york, New York 10011
United States
Domain Name: COPIERSWAREHOUSE.COM
Created on: 01-Nov-02
Expires on: 15-Nov-13
Last Updated on: 02-Oct-08
Administrative Contact:
brooks, jake jake @tristatecamera.com (edited, remove space)
copiers warehouse
50 w. 20th st
new york, New York 10011
United States
212-633-2454 x 220 Fax -- 212-633-7718
IP Address: 74.84.197.40
IP Location United States - New York - Brooklyn - Tristate Camera
| WhoIs for tristatecamera.com, Quote:
Registrant:
Tristate Computers
650 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10011
US
Domain Name: TRISTATECAMERA.COM
Record expires on 25-Oct-2010.
Record created on 26-Oct-1998.
Database last updated on 21-Sep-2009
Administrative Contact:
Brooks, Jake jake @tristatecamera.com (edited, remove space)
Tristate Computer
150 SULLIVAN ST
BROOKLYN, NY 11231
US
(212) 633-2454 fax: (212) 633-7718
IP Address: 74.84.197.36
IP Location United States - New York - Brooklyn - Tristate Camera
| Same Admin contact name/phone number and similar IP's.
Now look at these two, WhoIs for accessorycircut.com, Quote:
Name Server: NS61.DOMAINCONTROL.COM (has 22,932,075 domains)
Name Server: NS62.DOMAINCONTROL.COM (has 22,932,075 domains)
IP Address: 67.90.44.76
IP Location United States - New York - New York - Xo Communications
| WhoIs for newworldvideodirect.com, Quote:
Name Server: NS41.DOMAINCONTROL.COM (has 22,932,075 domains)
Name Server: NS42.DOMAINCONTROL.COM (has 22,932,075 domains)
IP Address: 67.90.44.65
IP Location United States - New York - New York - Xo Communications
| Could just be a coincidence.
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09-22-2009, 07:38 AM
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wow thnx!
they are already changing their webpage. i've monitored it and you can see some changes already in affect. like the change of the (suburb of California switched to los Angeles..) looks like their taking the info we are producing and changing it...  Only ONE problem... that address doesn't exist
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09-22-2009, 08:03 AM
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09-22-2009, 10:19 AM
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speaking of nwvdirect... here is a photo of a charger they sell... 
yet look closely.... ewww is that really bad photoshop?
now look where i think they got the pic from .... 
hmmmmmmm...
oh and here is AC's version... supposed to be the same thing... 
looks more like a 'cough cough' generic... than a jvc
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09-22-2009, 06:08 PM
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| Excellent find, Master Nomaxim!! Maybe they are to busy shipping products and do not have time to write their own material? Boy, nothing gets past you...
Crimson, have someone else "try" to order the Sony charger...
Has anyone tried their live operator?  It is just the same information that you are entitled to free shipping...Then the next line states you have 14 days to return the item...It is the same message each time one goes to their website...
Check their reviews on page one...Four complaints of BAIT AND SWITCH....
AccessoryCircut - AccessoryCircut.com - Reviews, Ratings and Prices at ResellerRatings
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| i've thought about that i just need to do it with a diff phone just in case. i know this so called "Elliot" was the one who i spoke with the whole time. even when the mysterious person called to have me upsell my item. i'm 99 percent sure it was the same guy. i have to set something up with my husband. i need to find out if its legal to tape from fl to ny i remember hearing about certain jurisdictions the other person has to be notified or you could get jail time or fine. not sure if thats legal at the moment but i'll be asking and i'll let ya know. i've seen this one guy do it and i saw his youtube video. it was great! the guy kept hanging up on im tho after he figured out it was him repeatedly calling.
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