SCAM - YourDigitalElectronics

[Atomic Rooster]

Do not order from YourDigitalElectronics.com. It is a scam site.

They have a minimum order of $500 and ONLY accept Western Union.

They say they are located in Orange, Ca. But they have a "logistics department" in Worcehster, MA and their billing office is now located in London, England. Just yesterday, their billing dept. was in Rome, Italy.

Today:

HOW TO REACH US:
Customer Sales:
(866) 779-0752
Sales Fax:

(714) 464-4746
Customer Service:

(866) 779-0752
Customer Service Fax:

(714) 464-4746
eMail:

sales@your-digitalelectronics.com
MAILING ADDRESS:
Main Office USA: 3141 W Chapman Ave, Orange, CA, 92868,USA
USA Logistics Department:
144 FRANKLIN ST, WORCESTER, MA, 01604,USA
EUROPE (Billing Department): 74 Oxford St, London, W1D 1BP,UK

Yesterday, 11/13/2007:

EUROPE (Billing Department): Via Merulana 151, Rome, 00185,Italy

11/10/2007:

EUROPE (Billing Department): Via Zara 70, Rome, 00198,Italy

They have only been in operation since Oct 31, 2007.

WHOIS information for: yourdigitalelectronics.com:

[whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com]
Domain Name: YOURDIGITALELECTRONICS.COM

Registrant:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Creation Date: 31-Oct-2007
Expiration Date: 31-Oct-2008

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.ipnames.net
ns1.ipnames.net


Administrative Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Technical Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Billing Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Status:ACTIVE

[nomaxim]

Good find AR.

Looks to be the Malaysian scammers again. Haven't seen them open a new site since July.

Electroforless.com
Bestcruisesdiscount.com
Fastiphone.com
Eurocertonline.org
Eicafraud.org
Electrodelivered.com
Plus others

1.
Using the same hosting services in Malaysia, they seem to like three hosts there for some reason.
Usually these ones,
Applied Information Management Services
Time Telecommunications Sdn Bhd
Plus another I can't remember right now.
Sometimes will use Yahoo or someone else as a host.

2.
Looks like they gave up on ripping off ibcim.org/, but they likely site ripped someone's website.

3.
Like to list three address's. Seem to like using address's in Italy, UK, and US, sometimes Spain and Greece too. The address they give in the US are usually always fake. Both the one's in the WhoIs you quoted are.
Per the USPS,

The address you provided is not recognized by the US Postal Service as an address we serve. Mail sent to this address may be returned.

4.
Minimum order and payment through W/T only.

At least two of the four things above are usually present with these guys. Don't know if they are in Malaysia or not, but it sounds good.

Should never be confused with the Indonesian scammers. Indonesians like to use real or fake address's in Indonesia or mix and match address's they get from the phone book. Sometimes they will alter letters or numbers in the address or phone number. Don't tend to use a minimum order amout so much, but will use W/T as the only payment method.

Just an observation on my part.

[frostbitetwice]

Once again their "contact us" betrays their intention..Moreover, the PP and CC logos exposes their insincerity...

[customercare37]

you are right about them. They don't accept credit card payment (lmao) what good company don't accept credit card? none, all good company accept credit cards.

Thanks for the head up.

[big_rock]

I guess what really frosts me is that I found these scammers on Yahoo Shopping. Apparently these portals don't give a damn about the retail customer, since they obviously don't screen the "retailers" who are listing with them. If you have a few bucks to get your site listed on a portal, it's almost a license to steal. But, then I guess that's what resellerratings.com is for. Still, it's getting very difficult to sort the bad guys from the good guys.
big_rock

[Atomic Rooster]

LOL! I guess now the payments are to be sent to their "payments representative" at Via Conca D'Oro, 311,00141, Rome, Italy.

Funny how a company located in Orange California has you send payment to Italy.

[nomaxim]

Electroforless.com is still up and running. I ran across them again the other day at TWF, Is http://www.electroforless.com legit?.

[ojgsarge]

This site stole $700 and had I been more careful, it wouldn't have happened. They are now posting a fake review of something that I did not purchase.

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I will do whatever I can to ensure that someone else does not get taken.....

[kargomoose]

Checkou this message I recieved from them todya when I inquired why the Visa and Master Card logos are on their site when you have to use Western Union. I also asked about why I can never reach them.

We cannot take orders by phone. Our products generate enormous interest. We are getting more than 4500 calls and 600 orders a day. Also, in order to keep records for our transactions we rather communicate with our customers by email.We cannot use Paypal due to our “Just In Time” (JIT) policy. As you know it takes up to 5 business days to withdraw funds from Paypal to bank account.We had fraud problems in credit cards processing and we have lost more than US $25,000.00 in shipping items ordered with stolen credit cards and after delivery we had to return the funds to their honest possessors. That's why we no longer accept credit cards for orders. The only solution for the moment is to receive the deposits through Western Union.

Thank you for using our service,

Anita Roberts,

Customer Service,

Your Digital Electronics, Inc.

http://www.YourDigitalElectronics.com

[mattc123]

Does anyone know if this site does any phishing? I ask because I created an account with them and don't want them using my info to try to get into any other sites I use.

Better change all my passwords just to be sure... Oh well. I'm glad I found this forum before I tried to send them $500.

-m.