Need Info regarding 21electronics.com

[yathi8999]

I'm planning to buy a Canon SLR on http://21electronics.com . I want to know if this seller can perform. Appreciate if i get a reply ASAP.

[Steve R Jones]

RED FLAG - Run Forest Run->

How do I pay for my order?
We reserve the right to accept payment by Western Union, E-gold, PayPal and Bank Transfer payments. You will receive the bank account information by e-mail after your order is submitted. Wire-transfer may take 1-2 business days to confirm. It must be confirmed by our bank before shipping can take place. After you have made your payment, please contact us to let us know that we can now collect your money. This will help us expedite your shipping. We will then attempt to collect your payment and notify you when it is set.

[nomaxim]

The above reason plus the WhoIs info shows that the site was just created last week, 9OCT2007.

And, the 'Contact Us' page gives;

Electronics 21, Inc.
Address: #5 Mall Terrace
City: Kingsport
State: Tennessee
Zip: 37662
Country: United States
Tel/Fax: 423-723-6598

Per Whitepages.com the phone number is a unlisted land line in Kingsport, TN.
However, Whitepages cannot find the address and the USPS gives the correct address and says,

The address you provided is not recognized by the US Postal Service as an address we serve. Mail sent to this address may be returned.

This address may be Non-Deliverable
5 MULL ST
KINGSPORT TN 37665 - 2120

The USPS seems to be suggesting that there is no Mall Terrace in Kingsport, TN.

[davidows]

Kingsport Criminal Investigations confirms that no such address exists. The headers on the Electronics21 emails come from Reston, VA and the website is hosted in Maryland.

They are offering Lenovo laptops at a price that is not possible for a legitimate dealer. If it seems to good to be true...

...especially when they won't accept any credit cards. Your money will be long gone without anything to show for it. They don't even offer Paypal on their checkout page. It's Western Union, Wired Moneygram or eGold and that's it. None of them offer the buyer any protection against fraud.

[Rouge_Trader]

The site has a logo of certification by IBCIM.ORG (Merchent certified)

I emailed them to confirm this is wot the said:-

Dear Sir,

This is a fraudulent site and we are currently taking action against this site. Please do not do business with them under any circumstances and we hope to have them shut down shortly.

Regards

Christian H. Nilsson

IBCIM.ORG



> ----------------------------------------
Sent: Thu Oct 18 17:12:45 CEST 2007
> To: <service@ibcim.org>
> Subject: IBCIM.ORG Contact Form


message: Hi,
> Can you please confirm that the following internet retailer has be certified by IBCIM.
>
> Electronics21
> http://21electronics.com

[nomaxim]

IBCIM.ORG has been having problems with sites ripping their logos and website for the last two years or so. RR's Online Scam Stores (Online Scam Stores - A list and guide) list contains two of them, eicafraud.oreg and eurocertonline, eicafrauds is the third. Since IBCIM has redesigned thier website in the last couple months, it looks like they are down to just stealing the logo.

Rouge_Trader,
Good eye. I saw that logo and thought it looked familiar, I just couldn't place where I'd seen it before.

nomaxim's ego -10

[yathi8999]

I can't thank you people enough for helping me out. This site is really great & so are good samaritans such as as yourselves.

[adam1967]

Thank you so much for exposing this apparently fradulent site. Froogle indexed their (presumably fake) offer of $670 for 30" 2560x1600 lp3065 monitor. I just wish froogle.google.com would list some URL for reporting possibly fraudulent listings.

[Mick P]

thanks for the info
this site came up on ebay in UK i emailed them and started having my doubts when there was no reply then started looking into it address in spain and italy dont come up on mapsorce (Garmin) i guess it must be fake. just voicemail on phone checked address in US but not an exact match been kicking my heals with this just couldnt put my finger on it but never felt right then lucky enough i found this post

Many thanks guys

Regards Mick

[Kuulei]

Well it looks like they took it down