Legal or Scam? http://www.lfpdistrogroup.com/

[Just_me2008]

Well, like i said, it is easy to get an incorporation that can be verified to make you get your 3000 points. I sure hope you proove me wrong but i will have to wait a while before i order from you because you are just to new for me. Even if your intentions are good, there is the concern with your supplier...new people are easily suckered into deals with scammers without knowing it. How sure are you that your supplier is providing authentic goods and not fakes? How sure are you that your supplier will deliver the products. Does your supplier accept secure payment options?

[itiq]

If your company is so legit why cant you offer ITLC (irrevocable transferable letter of credit) or fly and buy if you are concerned of people meeting your suppliers then have them sign a no compete agreement...I have been in business a long time and a legit business will offer this

[meandmeonly]

i have been in contact with this outfit and they seem to say all the right things such as proof of a trading licence but to be honest i wouldn't know what one looks like? Also that they could provide references from previous clients which i think if any one wanted to they could get a few false ones. The thing that got me though was when i asked about the duty for the UK they said they would put it down as a gift so if i ordered 15 iphones and 25 ps3's how could that be described as a gift???

[nomaxim]

Originally Posted by meandmeonly

i have been in contact with this outfit and they seem to say all the right things such as proof of a trading licence but to be honest i wouldn't know what one looks like? Also that they could provide references from previous clients which i think if any one wanted to they could get a few false ones. The thing that got me though was when i asked about the duty for the UK they said they would put it down as a gift so if i ordered 15 iphones and 25 ps3's how could that be described as a gift???

Did they give you a VAT number?

You can check the VAT number here; http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs...tedLanguage=EN

Also, what was the method of payment?

[meandmeonly]

i didn't get as far as asking for the VAT details but they said the method of payment would be Bank Transfer or Paypal depending on size of order i replied and said i will not do business through bank wire or transfer and they said we can try and came to some sort of arrangement?

[nomaxim]

Good call. Wire transfer is the same as sending cash and carries absolutely no protection against fraud. PayPal is some what better, but still not great. The problem with PayPal is that if you do not receive your goods you can file a complaint. However, even if PayPal rules in your favor, they can not recovery your money unless it is in the the payee's account. In other words, if they (the merchant) withdraws the money from their PayPal account then PayPal cannot get your money back.

Always use a credit card. Especially for a first transaction, not a debit card, (I recommend you use a CC for all transactions). A CC carries full fraud protection. So if you do not receive your merchandise you can do a charge-back for non-delivery of goods. That means that your CC company will refund your money and go after the merchant for the refund.

If the merchant/supplier does not take credit cards, look elsewhere.

PS.
And meandmeonly, they are likely reading this thread.

[mercury1231]

Originally Posted by nomaxim

Good call. Wire transfer is the same as sending cash and carries absolutely no protection against fraud. PayPal is some what better, but still not great. The problem with PayPal is that if you do not receive your goods you can file a complaint. However, even if PayPal rules in your favor, they can not recovery your money unless it is in the the payee's account. In other words, if they (the merchant) withdraws the money from their PayPal account then PayPal cannot get your money back.

Always use a credit card. Especially for a first transaction, not a debit card, (I recommend you use a CC for all transactions). A CC carries full fraud protection. So if you do not receive your merchandise you can do a charge-back for non-delivery of goods. That means that your CC company will refund your money and go after the merchant for the refund.

If the merchant/supplier does not take credit cards, look elsewhere.

PS.
And meandmeonly, they are likely reading this thread.

So Paypal is not safe either? What about Google Checkout? It links to your credit card. So supposedly they are very safe, because you got double-layer protections, one being the credit card and the other being Google Checkout. To sellers, it should be the same as Paypal (or even safer) because Paypal often freezes your money and hold it for a long time without any justifications.

[Just_me2008]

Originally Posted by nomaxim

Good call. Wire transfer is the same as sending cash and carries absolutely no protection against fraud. PayPal is some what better, but still not great. The problem with PayPal is that if you do not receive your goods you can file a complaint. However, even if PayPal rules in your favor, they can not recovery your money unless it is in the the payee's account. In other words, if they (the merchant) withdraws the money from their PayPal account then PayPal cannot get your money back.

Always use a credit card. Especially for a first transaction, not a debit card, (I recommend you use a CC for all transactions). A CC carries full fraud protection. So if you do not receive your merchandise you can do a charge-back for non-delivery of goods. That means that your CC company will refund your money and go after the merchant for the refund.

If the merchant/supplier does not take credit cards, look elsewhere.

PS.
And meandmeonly, they are likely reading this thread.

Well, there is some protection with bank transfer. I remember one time i sent payment to Canada and recieved nothing. I filed what is called a reversal through my bank and they was able to retrieve about 60% of my funds, which is alot better then nothing.

I can personally vouge for so called paypal not protecting as they say cause this crap happened to me. I paid, received nothing, filed claim and won...but the other person cleaned out account so paypal said they could not help. Luckily I used my debit visa card. I went to bank and they filed claim against paypal and I got money back.

I agree with your post to never use funds already in your paypal accoun to pay your first time. I had no problem using my debit card but make sure it has the visa/mastercard logo.

[mercury1231]

Originally Posted by Just_me2008

Well, there is some protection with bank transfer. I remember one time i sent payment to Canada and recieved nothing. I filed what is called a reversal through my bank and they was able to retrieve about 60% of my funds, which is alot better then nothing.

I can personally vouge for so called paypal not protecting as they say cause this crap happened to me. I paid, received nothing, filed claim and won...but the other person cleaned out account so paypal said they could not help. Luckily I used my debit visa card. I went to bank and they filed claim against paypal and I got money back.

I agree with your post to never use funds already in your paypal accoun to pay your first time. I had no problem using my debit card but make sure it has the visa/mastercard logo.

This is actually the problem with Paypal. They always charge high while doing almost nothing to help either sellers or buyers.

[Auto Art]

I'm also in the proccess of trying to do business with this company. After reading nomaxim's post about paypal and credit cards I think I'm just going to go with the google check out because they said they offered that. Can anybody verify that google check out is safe to use?? If I don't recieve the merchandise can I report to my credit card and they will give me back my money and come after the seller??