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Old 03-15-2007, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I can't believe I had such a bad Newegg experience :(

I'm actually still in shock over this, as I've purchased probably 1-2 million dollars from Newegg over the years and have rarely every had a bad experience with them.

I want to start out by saying I'm not a competitor trying to besmirch them and I really have had wonderful experiences 99.9% of the time with Newegg. Bringing this in a public light is not to bash them, but rather prevent this from happening again.

Here's the deal: I own a computer repair shop and online Boutique PC company. Most of my purchases are from the same places Newegg buys from (D&H, ASI, etc etc). However, for single parts or sometimes even single systems, it's way easier to buy from Newegg, as I'm on wire transfer terms with my distributors and it's a huge pain get a wire transfer for 1-10 parts. Not to mention, Newegg's volume gets them a better price and it's often cheaper just to order from them.

So needless to say, Newegg gets alot of business from my companies.

Recently, I purchased a small case from Newegg for a PC build for a local customer. Turns out the little door that conceals the USB/Firewire ports was busted. One of the little pegs holding it in were broken and it fell off just as soon as I opened it.

No biggie, I get bad parts all the time (more recently as of late for whatever reason), but my customer is chomping at the bit to get his new PC and I'm nervous to order the same case, as the door was extremely flimsy.

I go to file an RMA and see:

"The warranty policy provided by the product manufacturer for this item explicitly requires that any returns, repairs, etc. be requested and processed directly by the consumer (or "end-user") of the item. Manufacturers' warranty details are typically available at the manufacturer's website"

The product details page did NOT state this! So I hop on Newegg's live chat and explain the situation to Tyrone and tell him I'd feel more secure with a different case, as this one feels flimsy and the return policy on it is...unusual.

The following is from a transcript of the live chat (and yes, I cover my a$$ by saving all transcripts to text files and recommend everyone else do the same)

Tyrone: Do you think it was damaged in shipping the door of the case?
Richard: I dont think so, the box is in perfect shape, no dents or anything. But when I pushed the panel to open the door it fell off :/
Tyrone: Oh okay, how much was the case for?
Richard: looks like $54.99
Tyrone: Okay.
Tyrone: If you'd like we probably can just file a claim for refund for the case.
Tyrone: This way at the end of the claim you would receive a refund.
Tyrone: You would keep the case you have there.
Tyrone: And simply wait to be contact by us, and UPS concerning what to do with it.
Richard: ugh, damage claims take weeks/months in my experience >.<
Tyrone: Then you could simply order another case.
Tyrone: A replacement would basically take a week also.
Tyrone: So if you do it for a claim for refund.
Tyrone: You'll receive a refund in about a week.
Tyrone: In the meantime you could simply place another order and have it shipped to you.
Richard: a week? omg, you guys have some special deal with ups! they take forever whenever I file a claim
Richard: seriously it only takes a week?
Tyrone: Well we refund you before we get paid.
Tyrone: We don't wait for the claim to complete.
Tyrone: We refund you or send the replacement then we just wait for them to refund us.
Richard: oh ok! well that's perfect then let's do that!
Tyrone: Okay cool.
Tyrone: Okay I'll fill out a claim form for you for refund.
Tyrone: That way you'll just simply be waiting on the refund.
Tyrone: Will be about 7 days the whole process then a couple of days processing to return to your card.
Richard: *cheers* great, ill order another case that's SO much better than sending it in!


So Tyrone wants to file a damage claim, even though I specifically stated that the product was not damaged in shipping. Dishonest, but whatever. It saves me money shipping it back and might get me my little refund a bit quicker.

Week goes by and I hear nothing. So we tossed the case in the bin. UPS damage claims don't need to inspect a $54 item to process a damage claim anyways and it was taking up space in our cluttered little office.

I then get an email from Tyrone:

"For order number 67030108 we had begun a claim for the case with the damaged door. I was informed by the claims department that instead of a claim we should simply just set up an RMA for the case"

To his credit, they actually sent a shipping label, which is a VERY good thing to do, but on the other hand, he waited a WEEK to change his mind. Had he done an RMA as I had asked in the first place, the matter would have been resolved. I told him the box was not damaged.

So I email him back with a transcript of our live chat saying "yeah, this is a contradiction. I told you it wasn't damaged, we could have had this resolved already. We dumped the case, but as much as dumpster diving repulses me, I'll see if it's still there"

So I did just that and got the case out of the trash, no biggie. He replies back and basically says "forget it, we'll just refund you". Ooooookay.

So I get the refund invoice email from newegg today and under item it states:

"Com Customer Error 67030108 -1 $54.99 ($54.99)"

Customer error. So somehow, Newegg trying to rip off UPS for a bogus damage claim and then turning around and changing their minds became MY error.

Instead of feeling like a valued customer, I end up insulted and will forever have that comment in my customer records, which pisses me off as a matter of principle. The refund amount is too paltry to get upset about, but the total refund time ends up being alot longer and hassle filled than the "week" they claimed.

And here's the kicker - The motherboard that I ordered at the same time as this case was incorrectly listed as a Micro ATX motherboard, when it was roughly an inch too long for any MATX case (an unusual size I've never seen before) and the original case wouldn't have worked anyways! Upon trying to RMA that for a refund, I realized I would have gotten a restocking fee....for an error in Newegg's description. (nowhere on the manufacturer's site did they claim this to be an MATX motherboard).

And nowhere on Newegg's product page did they state that this case had 'special' warranty requirements, either.

Not wanting to bug their live support again, I just ordered a more expensive full sized ATX HTPC case and called it even.

This on top of some other recent refund related issues I've had in the past year (refunds taking 2-3 weeks to process after they receive the part, when their website states 3-5 days) and I found the experience insulting enough to mention here.

Newegg's always treated me REALLY good in the past and I hope my recent experiences are the exception and not the norm, because I like ordering from them. Their return policies need some work though.

Sorry to be so long winded, I just needed to get all that off my chest


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Old 03-15-2007, 11:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I can see why you are fraustrated. Have you thought to call jason at newegg which i think would of gotten you a faster refund or at least got it straightened out without harming your record?
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ah, I don't believe I've spoken to Jason before, but I'm going to make sure to write that name down for future reference! Thank you!

I was so hesitant to write my original post, because I've literally had over one thousand positive experiences with Newegg and even now I feel guilty for sharing my bad experience. But I'm thinking that by bringing my recent few bad experiences to a public forum, it will keep situations like that from becoming the norm and keep Newegg as the shining example of customer service they've been in the past.

Nobody likes their dirty laundry aired publicly, so it gets quicker results. I would have been fine if it wasn't for the invoice stating it was MY error; that was just shocking and a wee bit hurtful to me, as I've had such a good relationship with Newegg for the last 6 years and I feel like the next time I request an RMA, they'll be suspicious of me or think that I don't know what I'm doing
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You think that was a bad experience?!?!

The only reason this ordeal seemed to be "bad" is because you need everything RIGHT AWAY. If you simply bought a new case, and RMA'ed the first case to begin with, you would of had your case in 1-4days.
If you have spent 1-2 million at newegg, why are you worrying about getting a refund back immediatly?

As far as the Product Specs, newegg has thosands of products; you cant expect everyone to be spot on. They have links to the manufactuer page for easy access.

It seems you didnt get the most helpful newegg rep to help you out, which is unfortunate. But seriously, have a little a patience. Newegg usually sorts everything out in reasonable time. Try to realize how many orders they get a day.
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You think that was a bad experience?!?!

The only reason this ordeal seemed to be "bad" is because you need everything RIGHT AWAY. If you simply bought a new case, and RMA'ed the first case to begin with, you would of had your case in 1-4days.
If you have spent 1-2 million at newegg, why are you worrying about getting a refund back immediatly?

As far as the Product Specs, newegg has thosands of products; you cant expect everyone to be spot on. They have links to the manufactuer page for easy access.

It seems you didnt get the most helpful newegg rep to help you out, which is unfortunate. But seriously, have a little a patience. Newegg usually sorts everything out in reasonable time. Try to realize how many orders they get a day.
I apologize, I think you may have misunderstood. I wasn't upset about the cost or the time frame, as it's a paltry amount, as I had stated.

I wanted to do an RMA, that was the sole purpose of my conversation with Newegg. It was the Newegg rep that wanted to do the damage claim AFTER I said the item did not appear to be damage in transit, which was a bit shady to begin with. The way the case was packaged, it would have been impossible to cause that door to break without some sign of physical damage to the box.

Parts are bad out of the box all the time, which is why I said "no biggie".

But while this was for a $54 item, I've also purchased multi thousand dollar items as well. Imagine if this situation occured then?

So it's not the dollar amount, it's the principle behind it and the insult of having "customer error" listed on my account.

Your temper seems very high and I certainly don't wish to get into an argument about it, as I'm a nice guy and a big fan of Newegg, so I will once more give you my apology for not being clear in my original post and wish you the best!

Warm regards,

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Rich i wanted to come back when i had more time and give you better information instead of just a name. Use the following contact information and i think it might help.

Jason Salinas
Customer Service Professional
jason.a.salinas@newegg.com
9997 E. Rose Hills Road
Whittier, CA 90601
T: 800-390-1119 x (dial 25078 immediately)
F: 909-395-8907

Please everyone try to understand being a CSR is not an easy job. Think of the hundreds if not thousands of people that call each week about mess ups. They get tired and fraustrated just like we do. Carl you really need to chill in not one place in his post was he really badmouthing anyone or even newegg. He just didnt agree with the way it was handled and i agree with him it could of been handled better and i think if he ever does talk to jason he will find that jason has the power to remove that mark from his record.
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Rich i wanted to come back when i had more time and give you better information instead of just a name. Use the following contact information and i think it might help.

Jason Salinas
Customer Service Professional
jason.a.salinas@newegg.com
9997 E. Rose Hills Road
Whittier, CA 90601
T: 800-390-1119 x (dial 25078 immediately)
F: 909-395-8907

Please everyone try to understand being a CSR is not an easy job. Think of the hundreds if not thousands of people that call each week about mess ups. They get tired and fraustrated just like we do. Carl you really need to chill in not one place in his post was he really badmouthing anyone or even newegg. He just didnt agree with the way it was handled and i agree with him it could of been handled better and i think if he ever does talk to jason he will find that jason has the power to remove that mark from his record.
Sir, I GREATLY thank you for taking the time out to get me that contact information! I'm going to send Jason an email tomorrow and get everything cleared up

I've had such a good relationship with Newegg and again have had over a thousand wonderful transactions with them, I just didn't want a future CSR to look at my account and say "hmmmm what happened there?" and cast suspicion on me whenever I file an RMA. I've learned the hard way that misunderstandings like this can sometimes lead to unexpected ramifications and as I rely on Newegg quite a bit for smaller orders, I don't want anything to get in the way of future business! Once more, thank you so much for giving me that info!

Moderator: If it's alright, can you lock or close this thread? I'm positive the contact info for Jason will set things aright and I'd like to end the thread on this positive note! Thank God for resellerratings
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