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Old 11-05-2006, 08:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I noticed that eica-fraud.org went off line in the last few weeks. Looks like they just re-registered under eica-frauds.org, added a 's' to the end. The WhoIs info;
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Domain Name:EICA-FRAUDS.ORG
Registrant Name:BRANDI L STARKS
Registrant Organization:Private Registration US
Registrant Street1:P O Box 99800
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:EmeryVille
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94662
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.5105952002
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:contact@myprivateregistration.com
Created On:09-Oct-2006 23:49:28 UTC
Last Updated On:09-Oct-2006 23:49:34 UTC
Expiration Date:09-Oct-2007 23:49:28 UTC
And as above here is eica-fraud.org's WhoIs info;
Quote:
Domain Name:EICA-FRAUD.ORG
Registrant Name:Judith Louise Lewis
Registrant Organization:Private Registration US
Registrant Street1:P O Box 99800
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:EmeryVille
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94662
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.5105952002
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:contact@myprivateregistration.com
Created On:12-Sep-2006 23:10:16 UTC
Last Updated On:12-Sep-2006 23:10:20 UTC
Expiration Date:12-Sep-2007 23:10:16 UTC
The only difference between the two are the dates and names, likely picked those out of the phone book.
EICA-FRAUDS.org seems to be a rip-off of a New Zealand company's site:IBCIM.org's


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Hi Guys,

This one is to confirm that http://www.discounts-webstore.com/ is a fraud. Sadly, I found that out after I discovered your forum.

I was scammed with a laptop sale. It's a shame I was so naive.
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Discounts-Webstore.com has been added to the Online Scam Stores (Online Scam Stores - A list and guide) list:

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What payment methods do you accept?

We accept Western Union Money Transfer Service (Additional information on how to make the payment will be emailed attached to the invoice).
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http://www.universe-electronics.com appears to no longer be online - [confirm?]
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http://www.universe-electronics.com appears to no longer be online - [confirm?]
I get nothing but a blank page. No error message, nothing.
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Ok, me too.

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http://www.discounts-webstore.com/ is definitely a scam

I initially found this site: http://www.discounts-webstore.com/ while looking for cell phones to purchase for resale. In preparation for an order I sent an email to customer service asking if the ulocked motorola v3's they were selling were new with retail packaging. I very promptly received this answer from (sales@discountsweb-encrypted.com):

#################################################
Hello,

All the products are brand new, packed in the original
boxes, and come with all standard manufacturer
accessories.
You will receive with your package the manufacturer
international certificate of warrant.
Also we have a 30 days money back guarantee program
for all the products in our store.


Best Regards,
Michael Connelly
Customer Service Department
Discounts Webstore, Inc.
Phone: +1 877-237-0241
Fax: 407-264-8924
http://www.discounts-webstore.com
################################################## #

Now satisfied that the products were in saleable condition, I began the order process through the website. To my dismay, they only seemed to support Western Union... NOT GOOD. So I followed up by sending Mr. Connelly a new email with the following:

#################################################

I would like to place an initial order for 20 x unlocked Black RAZR V3's, but the only payment option is Western Union. I am not comfortable with that payment method. What other payment methods do you support? I would prefer to pay with a corporate credit card until I am confortable doing business with your firm. If there is an additional fee associated with accepting a credit card, I would be willing to pay it. If you accept other forms of payment such as wire transfer, etc. I would consider that as well.

##################################################

In response, Mr. Connelly sent me this response:

##################################################

Hello,

We also accept credit cards but the price for your
products will be double.
We manage to offer our customers these low prices
only by using Western Union Money Transfer ServiceŽ
(Money in Minutes) as payment method and the minimum
order policy.
So, we use WU for taxes purposes.

Best Regards,
Michael Connelly
Customer Service Department
Discounts Webstore, Inc.
Phone: +1 877-237-0241
Fax: 407-264-8924
http://www.discounts-webstore.com

#################################################

This is the weakest response I have ever seen from a vendor. This guy is definitely a scam. Look at the way he continues to push the Western Union bit. Anyway, in response I sent him:

#################################################

ROFLOL. You have to do better than that. BTW, how is Penang this time of year?

#################################################

If he actually responds I'll post it here. BTW, here's the whois on the domain he is using for his email address (again we see the funky washington street address in Orlando):


[whois.melbourneit.com]

Domain Name.......... discountsweb-encrypted.com
Creation Date........ 2006-10-30
Registration Date.... 2006-10-30
Expiry Date.......... 2007-10-30
Organisation Name.... Discounts Dotcom
Organisation Address. 31 W Washington St
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Orlando
Organisation Address. 32856
Organisation Address. FL
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Discounts Dotcom
Admin Address........ 31 W Washington St
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Orlando
Admin Address........ 32856
Admin Address........ FL
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... discountsdd@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.4072536589
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com


##############################################

Interesting to note that his advertised fax number is a land based line that belongs to South Central Bell.


BTW, on Monday I when I get back to the office I will pull up the full headers for the email we exchanged and see if I can figure out where he is sending his email from. This should give us at least an idea of where in the world he is located. Potentially, we may be able to identify his ISP. I have a strong feeling that since he's hosting this crap with Yahoo, that he is likely using the webmail interface they provide. Hopefully, that is not the case - but we will see.

BTW, here is the Apnic info for the IP address his www.discounts-webstore.com is being hosted from:

First we start with a simple nslookup:

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.discounts-webstore.com
Address: 203.121.73.198

Arin tells us this IP belongs in Asia and therefore can be queried using Apnic. This is what Apnic tells us:

% [whois.apnic.net node-1]
% Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

inetnum: 203.121.64.0 - 203.121.127.255
netname: TIMETELEKOM
descr: TIME Telecommunications Sdn Bhd
descr: Kuala Lumpur
country: MY
admin-c: AM59-AP
tech-c: SM139-AP
remarks: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
remarks: This object can only be updated by APNIC hostmasters.
remarks: To update this object, please contact APNIC
remarks: hostmasters and include your organisation'"'"'s account
remarks: name in the subject line.
remarks: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-MY-TTNET
mnt-routes: MAINT-MY-TTNET
changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20000510
changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20010712
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20040708
source: APNIC

person: Azmy Mohamad Yusof
nic-hdl: AM59-AP
e-mail: azmy@isp.time.net.my
e-mail: abuse@isp.time.net.my
address: TIMEdotNet Bhd
address: Level 3, Lot 14 Jalan U1/26 Glenmarie HICOM Industrial Park 40000
address: Shah Alam Selangor Malaysia
address: [abuse] abuse@isp.time.net.my
phone: +6-03-50326131
fax-no: +6-03-50326204
country: MY
changed: azmy@isp.time.net.my 20030217
mnt-by: MAINT-MY-TTNET
source: APNIC

person: Sabariah Mohd Norahim
nic-hdl: SM139-AP
e-mail: sabariah@isp.time.net.my
e-mail: abuse@isp.time.net.my
address: TIMEdotNet Bhd
address: Level 1, Lot 14
address: Jalan U1/26 Glenmarie HICOM
address: Industrial Park 40000 S.Alam
address: Selangor
address: Malaysia
phone: +6-03-50326200
fax-no: +6-03-50326204
country: MY
changed: sabariah@isp.time.net.my 20030217
mnt-by: MAINT-MY-TTNET
source: APNIC


############################################

So, this is interesting because his scam website is being hosted out of Kuala Lumpur, MY.

BTW, if you browse to http://203.121.73.198 you will get the default apache install page for his webserver. It seems he has this server configured for name based hosting and never replaced the default page associated with the IP. VERY SLOPPY. BTW, if you want to have some fun, his website administration page should be located at http://203.121.73.198/cpanel or http://203.121.73.198:2082 Of course, you will need to get past his admin username and password.

#############################################

A SYN scan of his webserver reveals the following:

C:\Program Files\Nmap>nmap.exe -sS 203.121.73.198

Starting Nmap 4.11 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap ) at 2006-11-11 10:55 Eastern
Standard Time
^C
C:\Program Files\Nmap>nmap.exe -sS -vv 203.121.73.198

Starting Nmap 4.11 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap ) at 2006-11-11 10:56 Eastern
Standard Time
DNS resolution of 1 IPs took 1.76s.
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan against 203.121.73.198 [1680 ports] at 10:56
Discovered open port 443/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 80/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 53/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 21/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 25/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 465/tcp on 203.121.73.198
SYN Stealth Scan Timing: About 22.02% done; ETC: 10:59 (0:01:46 remaining)
Discovered open port 143/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 995/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 110/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 993/tcp on 203.121.73.198
Discovered open port 631/tcp on 203.121.73.198
The SYN Stealth Scan took 79.19s to scan 1680 total ports.
Host 203.121.73.198 appears to be up ... good.
Interesting ports on 203.121.73.198:
Not shown: 1666 filtered ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
20/tcp closed ftp-data
21/tcp open ftp
25/tcp open smtp
26/tcp closed unknown
53/tcp open domain
80/tcp open http
110/tcp open pop3
143/tcp open imap
443/tcp open https
465/tcp open smtps
631/tcp open ipp
993/tcp open imaps
995/tcp open pop3s
3306/tcp closed mysql

Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 84.141 seconds
Raw packets sent: 3349 (147.336KB) | Rcvd: 1068 (43.216KB)

##########################################

I didn't bother with a UDP scan because they tend to be non-deterministic, but it is interesting to note that he is running a mailserver on port 25. Here's the output of a banner grab to that service:

220-server466.pizda-store.com ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:00:16 -050

220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
500 unrecognized command
500 unrecognized command
500 unrecognized command
500 Too many unrecognized commands
Connection to host lost.

#################################################

Hmmmm.... ESMTP? It looks like he's running a sendmail compatible mail relay. This is a nice idea if you want the opportunity to "wash" the email you send. This is not a common setup for a webstore front. I would have expected to find sendmail or equivalent here. Not a blatant mail relay. Anyway, we continue. What's this pizda-store.com domain? Yet another whois:

[whois.estdomains.com]
Registration Service Provided By: YOUR WEB POINT - E-GOLD DOMAIN REGISTRATIONS
Contact: +7.3843464245
Website: http://www.yourwebpoint.com

Domain Name: PIZDA-STORE.COM

Registrant:
Discounts Webstore Inc.
Discounts Webstore Inc. (karri.scrugs@gmail.com)
31 W Washington St
Orlando
FL,32856
US
Tel. +001.8772370241

Creation Date: 11-Oct-2006
Expiration Date: 11-Oct-2007

Domain servers in listed order:
34157.managedns4.estboxes.com
34157.managedns3.estboxes.com
34157.managedns2.estboxes.com
34157.managedns1.estboxes.com


Administrative Contact:
Discounts Webstore Inc.
Discounts Webstore Inc. (karri.scrugs@gmail.com)
31 W Washington St
Orlando
FL,32856
US
Tel. +001.8772370241

Technical Contact:
Discounts Webstore Inc.
Discounts Webstore Inc. (karri.scrugs@gmail.com)
31 W Washington St
Orlando
FL,32856
US
Tel. +001.8772370241

Billing Contact:
Discounts Webstore Inc.
Discounts Webstore Inc. (karri.scrugs@gmail.com)
31 W Washington St
Orlando
FL,32856
US
Tel. +001.8772370241

############################################

Nothing new there. Let's look at his FTP service:

C:\Program Files\Nmap>ftp 203.121.73.198
Connected to 203.121.73.198.
220---------- Welcome to Pure-FTPd [TLS] ----------
220-You are user number 1 of 50 allowed.
220-Local time is now 11:04. Server port: 21.
220-This is a private system - No anonymous login
220-IPv6 connections are also welcome on this server.
220 You will be disconnected after 15 minutes of inactivity.
User (203.121.73.198none)): ftp
530 This is a private system - No anonymous login
Login failed.
ftp>
ftp> bye

################################

Well, it doesn't look like he's doing much in terms of file transfers, but it's interesting to note that anonymous ftp is disabled, we're the only user connected, and he's running Pure-FTPD. Unfortunately, we don't know the version. =(

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DISCOUNTS-WEBSTORE *NOT* AFFILIATED WITH TIGERDIRECT/SYSTEMAX

BEWARE!

Systemax and TigerDirect are getting complaints from people regarding DISCOUNTS-WEBSTORE.COM AND DISCOUNTSWEBSTORE.COM as their About Us page says they are associated with Systemax and uses photos from the TigerDirect website.

We are working ardously to shut these people down, however they remain elusive and we hope to resolve this issue quickly.

DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING FROM THEM AS THEY KEEP THE MONEY AND NEVER SHIP A PRODUCT!

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Systemax / TigerDirect
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Should you ever have any problems with TigerDirect, please feel free to contact me directly: lonny.paul@tigerdirect.com
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BEWARE!

Systemax and TigerDirect are getting complaints from people regarding DISCOUNTS-WEBSTORE.COM AND DISCOUNTSWEBSTORE.COM as their About Us page says they are associated with Systemax and uses photos from the TigerDirect website.

We are working ardously to shut these people down, however they remain elusive and we hope to resolve this issue quickly.

DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING FROM THEM AS THEY KEEP THE MONEY AND NEVER SHIP A PRODUCT!

Lonny Paul
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Systemax / TigerDirect
Hey, you called it. They ripped off your "about us" word for word. I'd hate to be a pessimist, but the best you can really do to these guys get their domain pulled and if their ISP is actually responsive you could get their account disabled. I don't think that will really deter them from popping up elsewhere considering they have a considerable history of pulling this scam in the past.

BTW, have you considered getting the US Attorney General's office involved? If you go that route, you should be able to force Western Union to cooperate with Interpol to grab whoever is doing their cash collection in Italy. Of course, pulling their domain, etc - would kind of blow that possibility.
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Nice work, qwerty55. PIZDA-STORE.COM has been added to the OSS (Online Scam Stores - A list and guide) list.
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zone transfers from his webserver

So far I managed to get these zone transfers from his DNS service. SOA info doesn't look like anything new.


; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> @203.121.73.198 discount-webstore.com axfr
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
discount-webstore.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110701 86400 7200 3600000 86400
discount-webstore.com. 14400 IN MX 0 discount-webstore.com.
discount-webstore.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.pizda-store.com.
discount-webstore.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.pizda-store.com.
discount-webstore.com. 14400 IN A 203.121.73.198
ftp.discount-webstore.com. 14400 IN CNAME discount-webstore.com.
localhost.discount-webstore.com. 14400 IN A 127.0.0.1
mail.discount-webstore.com. 14400 IN CNAME discount-webstore.com.
www.discount-webstore.com. 14400 IN CNAME discount-webstore.com.
discount-webstore.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110701 86400 7200 3600000 86400
;; Query time: 473 msec
;; SERVER: 203.121.73.198#53(203.121.73.198)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 11 14:34:59 2006
;; XFR size: 10 records


; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> @203.121.73.198 discounts-webstore.com axfr
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
discounts-webstore.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110701 86400 7200 3600000 86400
discounts-webstore.com. 14400 IN MX 0 discounts-webstore.com.
discounts-webstore.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.pizda-store.com.
discounts-webstore.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.pizda-store.com.
discounts-webstore.com. 14400 IN A 203.121.73.198
ftp.discounts-webstore.com. 14400 IN CNAME discounts-webstore.com.
localhost.discounts-webstore.com. 14400 IN A 127.0.0.1
mail.discounts-webstore.com. 14400 IN CNAME discounts-webstore.com.
www.discounts-webstore.com. 14400 IN CNAME discounts-webstore.com.
discounts-webstore.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110701 86400 7200 3600000 86400
;; Query time: 431 msec
;; SERVER: 203.121.73.198#53(203.121.73.198)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 11 14:35:15 2006
;; XFR size: 10 records


; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> @203.121.73.198 pizda-store.com axfr
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
pizda-store.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110705 86400 7200 3600000 86400
pizda-store.com. 14400 IN MX 0 pizda-store.com.
pizda-store.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.pizda-store.com.
pizda-store.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.pizda-store.com.
pizda-store.com. 14400 IN A 203.121.73.198
ftp.pizda-store.com. 14400 IN CNAME pizda-store.com.
localhost.pizda-store.com. 14400 IN A 127.0.0.1
mail.pizda-store.com. 14400 IN CNAME pizda-store.com.
server466.pizda-store.com. 14400 IN A 203.121.73.198
www.pizda-store.com. 14400 IN CNAME pizda-store.com.
pizda-store.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110705 86400 7200 3600000 86400
;; Query time: 467 msec
;; SERVER: 203.121.73.198#53(203.121.73.198)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 11 14:35:22 2006
;; XFR size: 11 records


; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> @203.121.73.198 eicafrauds.org axfr
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
eicafrauds.org. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110801 86400 7200 3600000 86400
eicafrauds.org. 14400 IN MX 0 eicafrauds.org.
eicafrauds.org. 86400 IN NS ns1.pizda-store.com.
eicafrauds.org. 86400 IN NS ns2.pizda-store.com.
eicafrauds.org. 14400 IN A 203.121.73.198
ftp.eicafrauds.org. 14400 IN A 203.121.73.198
localhost.eicafrauds.org. 14400 IN A 127.0.0.1
mail.eicafrauds.org. 14400 IN CNAME eicafrauds.org.
www.eicafrauds.org. 14400 IN CNAME eicafrauds.org.
eicafrauds.org. 86400 IN SOA ns1.pizda-store.com. buchanan.chad.gmail.com. 2006110801 86400 7200 3600000 86400
;; Query time: 501 msec
;; SERVER: 203.121.73.198#53(203.121.73.198)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 11 14:35:30 2006
;; XFR size: 10 records

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