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Old 06-13-2004, 11:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i need some help what should i get

What should I get

Cyber power
CASE: ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT
CDRW: (Special Price) 12X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE CPU: AMD ATHLON64 3200+ CPU ~ CAF603
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 6in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BEIGE COLOR)
HDD: Seagate 120GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD
MEMORY: 1024 MB (512MBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY (Standard Major Brand)
MODEM: PCI 56K V.92 FAX MODEM W/ VOICE
MONITOR: ELEMENT 17inch .27 MM SVGA MONITOR
MOTHERBOARD: MSI K8T Neo FSR VIA K8T800 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2, &Audio
MOUSE: Microsoft® Optical Wheel Mouse
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY PLUS ONE-YEAR ONSITE SERVICE
SOUND: Creative Labs SB AUDIGY 5.1 W/ 1394 IEEE
VIDEO: Hot New!!! ATI Radeon X800 PRO 256MB DDR3 8x AGP W/ TV-OUT & DVI

PRICE: (+1507)


Monarch computer

Cases: 100756 - PS 400W - Apex FoxConn TU-150 Mid-Tower (
Motherboards: 110177 - MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R K8T800 SATA/R/A/GBE/139
Processor: 120736 - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Retail Box-w-Fan)
Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease
Memory: 140693 - DDR (400) 3200 - 1 GB (2 pcs 512) OCZ
Hard Drive: 150117 - SATA - Western Digital (WD1200JD) 120 GB/
CD-RW/DVD-RW: 160892 - DVD-RW -Sony DWU18A 4X-DVD+-RW/8X-DVD+R
Floppy Drive: 170101 - Mitsumi 1.44 MB 3.5" Floppy Drive
sound Card: 180329 - Creative Audigy 2 ZS 24BIT/5.1/IEEE/MIDI/
Video Card: 190463 - Gainward GeForce FX 5900 XT 256MB DDR/8X-
Modem: 200102 - QuickConnect 56K V.92 PCI Modem
Warranty: 800009 - 3 Year - Parts & Labor - Plus
Viewsonic 17" CRT E70FB Flat Screen CRT

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i've read some really bad reviews from cyberpower but its just so cheap so i dont know what to get

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Old 06-14-2004, 03:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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don't know much about the company, but the first one for a little more in price you end up with a top of the line vid card. I would go with the first one. But to be honost, you could build one cheaper and people over at TechIMO could help you out with any building questions you might have. Try Newegg and individualy price each of those components (would try at least a 400 watt PSU) and see how much cheaper you end up.

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I agree with Sweeper2...you could start with a good barebone kit and shop around for the items you need. U can do it for far less than $1500
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Ok, aside from the bad reviews for Cyber Power the Monarch system is a MUCH better deal IMHO.

Listing pros and cons I get:

CASE: monarch wins. Cyber Power uses a generic case with a weaker power supply and chances are inferior cooling.

MOTHERBOARD AND CHIPSET: Monarch gives you the retail box with fan, better value. Other than that, they are =

HARD DRIVE: Take Western Digital over Seagate ANY day - Monarch wins again.

MEMORY: =

MONITOR: Viewsonic flatscreen is the hands down winner. Monarch again.

SOUND CARD: Audigy 2 sells for about $80 - $100bucks more than the old 5.1 surround and is a definite upgrade - Monarch again.

VIDEO CARD: This is the only part of the PC where Cyber Power wins in the head to head. You could go with the Cyber Power PC JUST to get the higher end video card but you will likely have a far better experience with the Monarch system. The FX5900 is a fine card and you would probably be quite happy with it.

SUMMARY: It appears that Monarch has used top quality components throughout their system whereas Cyber Power has built their offering around a top Motherboard/CPU combo using the cheapest components they can and then added the hot new video card to sell their system. You may get a great PC and you may have a lot of problems down the road due to cheap components and inferior cooling - something you are far less likely to experience with the Monarch offering.

For myself, if I was not satisfied with the video card I woud wait till the next generation cards come down in price (in about 6-8 months) and then upgrade to the top of the line Nvidia card.

Why Nvidia instead of ATI? Mainly because the ATI cards are having problems running games on PC's that use the NVidia NForce2/3 chipsets and if you are running AMD you will get AMAZINGLY better performance from this chipset.

Yes, the K8T is an excellent offering from MSI but that would be another upgrade I would make... to a Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP with the NForce3 chipset.

All that being said, I do agree with the others that you are better off building your own system IF you are comfortable doing it. Not everyone is.

Jack Alan Naugle

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ya, dude.... build your own. i built mine for like only $800.
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