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Old 11-17-2004, 03:15 AM   #51 (permalink)
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BBB Info about this company

Original Business Start Date: 1/1/1998

Principal: Jack Silver, Manager

Phone Number: (800) 845-3705

Additional Phone Numbers:
(800) 834-9911


Website: www.shopphotoking.com

Type of Business: Computers-Dealers

The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.

Customer Experience

Based on BBB files, this business has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau because it failed to respond to one or more complaints.

The company's size, volume of business, and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The number of complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.

Additional Business Names

This firm also does business under the following names. This is not necessarily a complete list.

Express Cameras

Report as of: 11/17/2004



With this post, and the information from the BBB, I will not do buisness with this company or the main company!!

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Old 11-26-2004, 09:36 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Look at those reviews!

Can Express Camera get any worse?
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:19 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I must admit, reading such unfavorable reviews about expresscameras.com scares the hell out of me - especially considering that I just purchased and received camera equipment from them. Fortunately, my experience with them was not as bad as some of you are describing, but I will say that they were not completely honest with my company throughout our transaction.

The story goes like this:

I was looking for a Nikon D-100 and some accessories for personal/professional use when I discovered expresscameras.com. Being the editor of a news media agency, I was instantly suspicious of the deal being too good to be true, but I wanted to give it a shot anyhow. I tape recorded all correspondence with the company via telephone and got the salesperson on tape telling me that the D-100 Professional Package came with a battery and charger. I also have him on tape stating that it comes with a full U.S. Manufacturer's Warranty.

Ultimately, I wanted to put safeguards in place in the event that we got ripped off. And I have learned through my years as a reporter that there is no evidence more damning than a tape recorded confession.

Anyhow, our transaction was at least a partial victory on our parts and I attribute that to the manner in which we dealt with the company. We placed our order for the camera and the accessories on Monday (Nov. 21) and we received it all on Friday.

Now, the company did misrepresent the shipping cost - originally quoting us approximately $50 and actually charging us $155, but I received the camera, the lenses and a warranty card (BIG SURPRISE!). Also, they originally told us that the camera came with a battery, but later told us that it didn't. That, I think, is a sucky business practice, but I still consider our deal on all the goods we ordered to be fairly competitive.

Some people have made reference to a salesperson named "Scott" acting like a jerk, and I would only echo those comments. Out of a few people we dealt with at EC, Scott was indeed the mouthiest and uncaring sounding. However, we spoke to at least one person that seemed somewhat human.

As for the free accessories that EC states come with these packages, I can happily say that we received everything that was promised. The camera bag actually seems to be half-way decent, the lens kit was pretty standard, the card reader and card seems to be of good quality and the tripod is average.

Overall, I'm not terribly pissed off about our experience with them. I guess we must just be one of the few lucky customers. We plan to dispute the shipping charge, since the company quoted us a figure and didn't come through with it, but the camera and lenses are working great. I would happily post some pictures of the goods and paperwork if anyone else is interested.

And, just so no one thinks I am an affilliate of EC, my PERSONAL e-mail address is freepressright@yahoo.com. If you care to e-mail me, I will answer any questions or prove my validity.

As for those who have had bad experiences with EC, I say take your complaints to the appropriate junctures and see what you can do. If you band together, you have greater potential for progress.

Thank you for your time.
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:38 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Express Cameras / expresscameras.com unethical and fraudulent

My experience with this company started today, and it is shockingly awful. First of all I did a google search for the canon lens I was looking for, and immediately found ExpressCameras.com offering the lens for $200 less than B and H. I bit. I ordered the Canon 16-35L lens online, then got emailed that I had to "confirm." The guy I spoke to (the infamous "Scott") told me that the lens was a plastic mount and that if I had the 20d I'd want the metal mount. But then he said there was a better lens, a new 17-35 that was for digital cameras, at "true" 17 that was exactly like the angle of view of a 17mm lens on a 35mm film camera. I asked, and I quote,

"Is this a Canon L-series lens?" Scott replied "yeah, of course it's an L"

Like an idiot I bit on this, and said ok. He said it was only $10 more and he'd throw in 3 day shipping. So I got on the web and searched for this mysterious new kind of lens. Of course it doesn't exist so I called back. A very rude and impolite person told me that it was a Sigma HSM Pro lens and that it was "way, way better" than the Canon. I told him that I wanted to switch the order back to the 16-35 (with the metal mount, which is only $20 less than B and H) and he said "You want an inferior lens?" I said "I want the Canon 16-35L with the metal mount." He said ok. I asked him if the shipping was the same price, the $49 they quoted me. He said "of course."

Now I go back to the web and search for the Sigma. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sigma's 17-35 does NOT have some special doodad to make it the same angle of view as on a 35mm camera and it does NOT cost $1310. In fact it costs $800. This guy was proposing to sell me a Sigma over a Canon L lens for $500 more than it was worth.

Now I'm getting upset so I call my credit card company. Express Camera has charged my account for $1399 - $50 more than what they quoted me. Will the lens ship and will it be new? I don't know and I don't much care anymore, I want to cancel. I tried, but now I have to call back tomorrow morning, according to the rude guy who answered my fourth call to this scam outfit, and talk to the infamous Scott.

These guys are just flat-out liars. They want to upsell you inferior equipment, they misquote prices and shipping and they lie about the features of the equipment in order to try and make outrageous profits. Of course they don't want to sell the advertised stuff as it should be - there must be no margin in it.

Never, ever do business with these guys. They are quick-buck scam artists, liars and fraudsters. If i can get my card uncharged it will be a miracle, but I'm expecting a drawn-out battle with a charge dispute and a return attempt. I will keep you posted in my progess.

Just buy from B&H - that's my advice.

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Old 12-12-2004, 07:44 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Express Cameras's Phony website icons

By the way, I noticed the same thing about their website as an earlier post. The little logos that assure you that they are a quality merchant and that they are a five-star seller are just hijacked from somewhere. They clearly earned none of this stuff, and they are not linked to anything. This looks eerily similar to a website created for a fake shipping company by a fraudster who was claiming to sell EOS 1DS' out of England. He'd use the fake shipping comany and fake tracking numbers to make it seem like your item was on the way.
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:08 PM   #56 (permalink)
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update on cancellation attempt

I tried to cancel today. Yesterday I was told I had to talk to Scott. Today I talked to him and he said to call back in an hour and talk to customer service. I called back and spent 24 minutes on hold while being bounced from sales rep to sales rep, then they hung up on me. I called back again, and the system hung up on me immediately. I tried calling later, but I get no voice mail menu, just music, and am on infinite hold. I sent an email saying that it would serve as notice of my attempt to cancel and that I would be disputing the charge should they decide to ship. If they ship and charge my card it will be against my express wishes made clear to three sales reps and in two emails. I'm beginning to suspect that "customer service" does not exist and that they just hang up on you if you are making an unpopular request.

I've dealt with many companies in my life, but these guys at expresscameras.com are the worst kind of scum.
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Old 12-14-2004, 01:08 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Deceptive Advertising

To All,

My husband is the director of our Visual Media Dept. at church and was looking to purchase another camera for one of our church plants. He found what "appeared" to be a great price on a Cannon GL2 MiniDV for $1539.00 at expresscameras.com. When he went to order the camera on Friday at 4 p.m. the offices were already closed so he decided to do it on-line. We also received an email to call a 1-800 number and verify the order the following Monday. When he called them yesterday (Monday), he was told the price that would be charged to the credit card was somehwere around $1859.00. To which my husand replied, "Why the extra charge? The site said the camera was '$1539.00,' so where do you get that price?" The man responded that there was a $250.00 mail in rebate, plus taxes, and that once he bought the camera for "$1859.00 (or something in the 1800's) he would then receive a rebate when he mailed it in. To which my husband said, "Well, that's deceptive. Your website never mentioned the $250.00 rebate." The man responded in an un-apologetic manner, as if he had heard it often (and now from reading the reviews, you can probably conclude that he has), "So, do you want the camera?" Of course my husband said he would have to re-evaluate considering it is not our personal funds that we are dealing with, but the church's. So, today he went on-line to read reviews and hindsight, we should have gone with a more reputable company. He said he is going to cancel the order and we pray that it is not "stcky." But we will let you know how it all turns out.

Bottom line: How can you put a rebate price on the website and never mention the rebate at all anywhere_not even when checking out. Then when you call to verify the purchase, the price is $300 over what it was advertised for. That is a very unethical and decpetive business tactic. It makes you weary of doing any business there.

Maybe this will help someone avoid a financial headache.

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Old 12-14-2004, 02:39 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Why doesnt someone pay them a visit?

ExpressCameras.com
1090 King Georges Post Road.
Suite 307
Edison, NJ 08837

surley someone has to be around there on this website....


better yet have any of you reported them to the http://www.bbbonline.org/ ?
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Old 12-14-2004, 05:04 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I could try to stop by. Mapquest says I'm and hour and 9 minutes away.
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Old 12-14-2004, 05:10 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Stopping by Expresscameras.com

Stop by if you like. I'd love to know what kind of boilerroom they have there. But I would guess that's a sham address. I'm sure they have their share of irate customers (victims) and I doubt they are going to tell you where they really are.

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