fastest home computer

[cysus]

Originally posted by natbeys


do u think this spec will it be fast enough(cpu)?
will it beat p4 3.4 ee or amd athlon fx- 51.... dual if theres mobo for this cpu?

Remember it is amd, not intel, 2.2ghz may not mean much for intel cpus. AMDs at 2.2ghz are what the amd fx-51 is based on, it's what the athlon xp 3200+ is at, also it is what the athlon 64 3400+ is at. A 2.2ghz opteron almost identical to the amd fx 51 which is better than a 3.2ghz P4EE and in many cases just as good if not better than an amd64 3400+. Now imagine two amd fx-51 procs running side by side, it far outperforms anything Intel can offer (short of a quad xeon, but no mobos support agp), not to mention almost as cheap as a 3.2 P4EE machine. Also remember opterons are 64bit. If you want the best deal go for a...
1) amd64 based system
2) amd athlon xp based system
3) P4 based system (not EE)
4) dual opteron system
5) AMD fx-51 based system
6) P4EE based system
7) dual xeon based system

[natbeys]

is that options from first to bottom? and what about ram i have heard there is 533mhz (4400) ram r available! r there 533mhz ram support mobo available?
what do u think on mobo? also heard mobos r changing to a all new diffrent look (new ddr support, new pci slots, ?? ) how much time it will take this type of mobo to come out in the market?
what is the best motherboard for p4 3.4 ee and amd athlon fx-51?
if theres dual mobo for these cpus... will i see a top notch performance if i put 2 cpus on this dual mobo?

[Sixpac_XP]

You will only see top notch performance in dual cpu setups only if the application supports dual cpus... or else the other cpu just sits idel.

[cysus]

Originally posted by natbeys
is that options from first to bottom?

1) I listed different system options from the best "deal" to worst "deal" in my opinion.

and what about ram i have heard there is 533mhz (4400) ram r available! r there 533mhz ram support mobo available?

2) DDR 4400 ram is ram that is rated to transfer at that speed, all ram is backwards compatible. No motherboard currently supports such speeds but when overclocking you would be raising the ram to a speed it is rated for rather than pushing it passed what it was designed for.

what do u think on mobo? also heard mobos r changing to a all new diffrent look (new ddr support, new pci slots, ?? ) how much time it will take this type of mobo to come out in the market?

3) New mobos with PCI express, a vga interface to replace agp, are coming out in the next few months. Also a new socket (778 rather than 478) cpu is coming out from Intel soon. New video cards are coming out in the next few months. All these new technologies will be available by the summer most likely. You should probably wait and get a mobo supporting PCI express. Also you should wait and see how well Intel’s "new" cpus perform, they might well outperform AMD but who knows. In a few months the Athlon fx-53 will be out as well. By the summer there will most likely be motherboards supporting DDRII ram. These technologies are all worth waiting for. If you buy a system now you'll have a large risk of them being outdated in 4 months.

what is the best motherboard for p4 3.4 ee and amd athlon fx-51?
if theres dual mobo for these cpus...

4) Currently, many people would recommend ASUS motherboards for both those, the P4C800-E Deluxe for Intel and SK8V for AMD. There are no dual cpu motherboards for those processors, none of them can work in dual modes, there is however dual opteron mobos/singal AMD FX-51 motherboards (like the one I recommended), meaning it has 2 socket 940 cpu slots and if you want you can install 2 opteron cpus but you can only install one amd fx-51 and have to leave the other slot empty. The xeon cpus are pentium 4's that can work in dual or quad mode (opterons can work in up to a 8-way configuration, no mobo supports this currently), but at this point Xeons are overpriced and under performing.

will i see a top notch performance if i put 2 cpus on this dual mobo?

5) If you were to set up the dual opteron you would by far have the best "home computer" now, you would have about twice the cpu speed as anything out there (well, any home computer) and in many cases 3-4 times the cpu power. But if you jump on this system now you won't be able to install any video card past what is out now since everything is moving to PCI express. You'd also be limited to DDR memory rather than having the option of moving to DDRII memory. At this piont I would stay with what you have until July or August then buy the best system possible with all new technologies. Maybe by then you could set up a quad opteron with DDRII and PCI express support (that would be something to bring to a LAN party). Just wait and see what comes out, I doubt you'll regret it.

[cysus]

Originally posted by Sixpac_XP
You will only see top notch performance in dual cpu setups only if the application supports dual cpus... or else the other cpu just sits idel.

I don't believe this is the case for opterons, I could be wrong.

[originel]

I don't believe this is the case for opterons, I could be wrong.

no this is the case for opterons as well.

But here's the deal on dual-procs (my roomie has 2 dual-proc systems and has told me a lot about them). In order for a single application to run on both procs it must support it (no games do except for quake 3 and doom 3). BUT when you have a dual proc system with a dual-proc aware OS then you will see significantly improved multi-threading (meaning faster overall system response). so if you are planning on going for such a high-end system i would highly recommend it.

btw...my advice is (if your not getting this system right away), wait until people have figured out how to multiproc the athlonFX (just like they did with the XP) and use two athlonFXs. they are better for gaming than an opteron.

[MitaDC]

Boy this is like kids in a candy store. Everybody here is just fantisizing about spending $5000 bucks on a computer. I know I would be!

EDIT: I know I am!

[cysus]

Originally posted by originel
no this is the case for opterons as well.

But here's the deal on dual-procs (my roomie has 2 dual-proc systems and has told me a lot about them). In order for a single application to run on both procs it must support it (no games do except for quake 3 and doom 3). BUT when you have a dual proc system with a dual-proc aware OS then you will see significantly improved multi-threading (meaning faster overall system response). so if you are planning on going for such a high-end system i would highly recommend it.

btw...my advice is (if your not getting this system right away), wait until people have figured out how to multiproc the athlonFX (just like they did with the XP) and use two athlonFXs. they are better for gaming than an opteron.

Thats right it works like hyperthreading, I had forgotten.

[ArcticFox]

Yeah think about it: Dual 3.8Ghz P4 EE's with Voodoo F-1 liquid cooling, mmmm......

[cysus]

Originally posted by ArcticFox
Yeah think about it: Dual 3.8Ghz P4 EE's with Voodoo F-1 liquid cooling, mmmm......

??...
it be nice, but could never happen.