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Old 12-06-2006, 05:19 AM   #302 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by boostedtsi View Post
considering it it not meant to see consistent full load ALL the time yes, they can be and most cases ARE very finicky and can also be flaky. As they are not 100% complete.

Think of preproduction hardware like beta software, just how many tries do they do before it is really 100%?
An ES processor is meant for full load all the time, unlike what you posted. They are sent out to systems integrators like Monarch or Dell for qualifying hardware and configurations. But they are not production line silicon either and can have different errata in them from production processors. Take Core 2 Duo for instance: the ES procs were found to have some kind of bug in them and Intel had to do some relatively minor mod to the production die to correct it before general release of the C2D line, but they are fully functioning processors otherwise besides the bug that was found, which would have affected only a small minority of users. But it needed to be fixed, hence Intel did one more revision of the core before release. But michaels39 is right; Monarch shouldn't be passing these processor or video cards off and that is actually against Intel's and Nvidia's rules for ES samples.

RockM66, if you are worried about this ES video card you received, I would email Nvidia directly and explain what MCS did to you on your system they sold you. Nvidia might be able to fix you up with a production video card from whoever they had build the ES cards for them and maybe they will think twice about sending any more ES video cards to these shady characters. And for you folks that received an ES Intel processor from MCS, I would get in contact with Intel on the matter too. I bet that Intel will do a direct RMA for the ES processor for you and will be glad to hear of this matter too, because Intel definitely doesn't want bad word to get out due to non-production processors not performing correctly and they will also most probably start some legal action against MCS to stop them from doing this in the future.

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